Judge denies George Zimmerman's request to delay trial

Chicago Tribune ^ | February 5, 2013 | Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

[Uncle Chip]

SANFORD

[bicyclerepair]

PEOPLE:

Please, if you intend on using Zimmerman’s LAST name, please also use Martin’s last name.

I’m SO SICK of seeing the thug’s first name and the victim’s last name used always.....

[Old Sarge]

I only refer to him as either “Saint Skittles” or “the dead perp”.

You can’t use the perp’s first name without copyright infringement, you know...

[Friendofgeorge]

I have been worried from beginning that George was going to get railroaded.

I am impressed with Mark O as a lawyer, I think he can do well in trial, however the jury selection process is probably were the case will be decided.

I guess no self defense hearing...stand your ground? Yes I heard Mark from all sides on this one, at one point I read that he said it did not apply in this case, and I have heard him suggest it might?

I think we need the separate trial just for the extra chance.

I am also concerned that haters will use his weight against him, I know this is wrong but I fear the backlash. He was so handsome about a year ago in a beautiful suit with some nice hair.

Yes it should not have anything top do with the case, but this is thje real world, they look at him as they buy into the prosecution lies, meanwhile are side has to remind that he was a much smaller man when this took place

Yes I am worried

[RightOnTheBorder]

You expected differently? They are going to crucify Zimmerman

I didn't really expect anything different but it still makes me angry. Sadly, this is not Obama justice but rather Rick Scott (Republican establishment) justice. IIRC the locals were going to drop the case till the race pimps got involved. Scott chose to persecute Zimmerman rather than to stand up to violent, racist black culture.

[J05h]

The riots will be much worse when he’s declared not guilty than had he not been charged.

[RightOnTheBorder]

The riots will be much worse when he’s declared not guilty than had he not been charged.

And they say nobody needs a 30 round magazine.

[TheThirdRuffian]

“Zimmerman would not even be on trial if the politicians were not afraid of having to react to rioting negros.”

Yep.

[Tublecane]

“I’m SO SICK...”

Why?

[AuntB]

Uncle Chip, I’m trying to remember where this incident occured...was it Georgia?

Here’s one today from Georgia that you haven’t heard about.

Nkosi Thandiwe Sentenced for killing spree; says he learned to hate white people in college
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2985617/posts

[Tublecane]

That article doesn’t really contradict what I said, and in fact contains palpable errors. For instance, though it claims you “WILL” be arrested and cops have no discretion over who gets charged, obviously that’s untrue considering the cops let Zimmerman go. Wasn’t until the media frenzy months later that he was charged.

The article does bring up an important facet of Stand Your Ground, however, and one that might contradict my argument. Just because you’re on your back doesn’t mean you are justified in shooting the guy atop you. What precipitated the fight matters. According to the DA Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder because he ignored the lawful order to break off pursuit of Martin. Which is utterly stupid. I could understand charging him with something on that basis, but not murder two.

Anyway, Stand Your Ground would remove the “duty to retreat” supposedly violated by Zimmerman when he maintained pursuit. So that would perhaps be his best defense. But he doesn’t need it, and in my opinion it would have been justified homicide in any state in the nation. For it was not a lawful order, and not given by a cop. Were it given by some authority on the scene he’d probably have to follow it, considering we grant wide latitude to the peacekeeping powers of the police. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t even phrased as an order. We also have no proof of whether or not he followed it.

Zimmerman’s tracking Martin was not illegal. Zimmerman had a perfect right to be there. If Zimmerman started the fight, we can’t prove it for lack of evidence. He was on his back, and so had no ability let alone duty to retreat from that point. The prosecution’s strongest argument will be that none of this would’ve happened had Zimmerman not followed Martin. However, that’s like the “she was asking for it” rape defense. Nothing we know Zimmerman did requires a Stand Your Ground defense to cover.

[rawcatslyentist]

Maybe there wont be as much left to burn, when they shut off the EBTs.

[eyeamok]

You all need to understand how this game is played, the Judge knows the prosecution is corrupt, he also knows that Zimmerman is absolutely innocent of the charges, but if He does not put on a good show for the Racists in the community, they will Burn the City down, so the objective becomes quite simply, make enough reversible errors or enough intentional mistakes to force a Hung Jury and should they actually be stupid enough to convict, the Verdict will be immediately overturned on appeal. This is done every day in American courts. The last time they did this in a high profile case was OJ, but they went too far and they found him not guilty. They will not make that mistake again. It will be up to the Appeals court to fix this. Saving Face and appeasing the Racist Community is all that matters. By Racist I mean BLACK PEOPLE, who are the most RACIST people I have ever encountered.

[Chewbarkah]

Thanks for the link. There should be a real deposition — predictably, the affidavit is carefully parsed filler.

Missing is any explanation of:
When and how Crump learned of Witness 8’s existence;
Why Crump did not immediately bring her to police attention (he does not mention even suggesting to her that she should come forward);
On what basis did he know how/where to contact her?
Had Tracy Martin or anyone else “unlocked” TM’s cell phone? When? Has your client provided the unlocking codes to FDLE? When?/To whom? If not, why?
Did anyone else talk with Witness 8 about TM prior to or after the telephone interview (such as Martin family members, other atty’s, et al.)?

How did he ascertain her age, status, availability during the time in question, credibility, etc.?
Has he learned anything else about her since, such as her NAME, real age, criminal record, other statements, etc.

Crump claims a Sony ICD-BX112 Digital Recorder has no facility for copying the digital files that make it work, no output jack for computer link, etc. Crump says you cannot delete portions of a file, then says you can divide files into parts and delete the parts. Has he ever done that on any occasion? Allegedly, all the “gaps” were from putting the call on hold, during which nothing was said. (It wasn’t that he turned off the recorder while coaching the witness or deleted unhelpful material...).