Posted on 02/02/2013 9:30:30 AM PST by bray
Be careful, however, that the exercise of your Freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 1 Cor 8:9
What if everything about evolution is a lie? This would mean everything built on the theory of evolution is a fraud too. One of the primary gaps evolutionists never want to discuss is where life began? They have two primary theories, it either randomly developed from the primordial soup of came from another universe on an asteroid. Neither of these theories is believable yet the entire theory of evolution is built on them even though the odds are around one in infinity.
There is a huge void in scientific explanation how life and evolution started so most scientists dismiss it as not important or in any need of explanation or proof. They say there was a Big Bang when nothing became something and then exploded into an explosion creating the universe according to all of their infallible models. After billions and billions of years, life magically, oops, scientifically appeared to begin the evolutionary chain. The only explanation the Darwinists have for life beginning is time rather than God. For evolutionists God is to be mocked while billions and billions of years is a serious explanation.
If you ask an evolutionist how life began they will immediately tell you that how life began is not a part of evolution. If you continue to ax the question they will either call you all types of names the worst of which is Christian or explain how only scientists understand how life began. It usually comes down to their ability to intimidate and bully people and even fellow scientists into backing down from the obvious black hole of life’s beginning. They will usually begin their virtual firing squad for anyone daring to question the beginning of life as subhuman and not part of academia’s Holy of Holies.
Their primary explanation is the primordial soup explanation. After the Big Bang and the earth formed with millions of years of volcanoes and flowing lava when the hydrogen and oxygen combined to form water and the cooling began. Randomly the earth just happened to circle the sun at exactly the right orbit and rotation to make the water the perfect temperature for life. Then a few million years ago the chemicals randomly formed amino acids turning into some type of primitive bacteria and billions of years later that bacteria is making laptops.
The problem with this theory is how complex that random event had to be. As scientists become more and more familiar with amino acids and DNA they are finding it is far more complex than they ever knew it was. The genetic codes are still ninety eight percent unexplained as they find more and more unexplainable pieces of the complexity it points less and less to a random act. They were dismissing the unexplained parts as Junk DNA pieces since they have only been able to identify less than 2% of DNA code and invented the term junk for the rest. This should be insulting to their intelligence and certainly to ours. As they get deeper and deeper into the DNA code they are finding that there is no junk in the code and more complexity making the randomness even less possible. Simply Google junk DNA and find out the lies are being exposed by those brave enough to question science. It would take trillions and trillions of years for a DNA helix to form randomly not simply billions. http://www.psrast.org/junkdna.htm
Their second explanation which is not as universally accepted but basically a fallback theory is the amino acids and life source came from space. This was developed when they realized their primordial soup explanation really didn’t hold water. So they developed the asteroid explanation that a life seed came from a distant solar system billions of light years away and fell to the earth at just the right time and apparently into the ocean after it survived the billion year trip in a vacuum and thousand degree temps during entry into our atmosphere. The obvious questions are where did it come from and is the solar system it came from more or less superior than ours. It is ok to believe there are life forms on other planets but it is not ok to believe there is a God.
Simply because a scientist says over billions of years and billions of chances can make something happen does not make it so. This is only a theory but one that really does not withstand the smell test when you think about it. Fortunately for evolution, scientists generally refuse to question any of their theories and rely on consensus to verify and vilify their earth sized holes in their theories. They have had to fight for this theory so completely and ignore so many craters it has become more of a magic show than science. They use smoke and mirrors to keep people from asking the important questions or demanding an explanation of why those odds are looking more like infinity to one than the truth.
Imagine if scientists spent as much time, energy and money trying to find out if God is real than trying to disprove God. Science has become a religion based on an atheistic belief that we began as nothing and when we die we go back to nothing. It is a religion that places all of its faith in evolution with no explanation of how life arrived but when it came, random chance and mutations has got us to the point man can think, read and write. They have replaced God with billions and billions of years so time is the miracle of our creation. What is the difference between their faith in billions of years and faith in God?
Evolution became the first agenda driven junk science of the modern world. Science is basically following a 19th century idea which if they were true scientists would have been disproved millions of times over but the politics won’t allow it. They need to have people turn from God to force their hope and trust in the gummit. They need the people to believe gummit is their god where all of their hope exists.
If people would put their faith and hope in God they would not need the gummit and most of its controls. If people were saved by Jesus Christ and believed he is where all hope exists there would be a heaven beyond this earth, something the Darwinists can’t offer. If there is a heaven and hell and Jesus saves us sinners from that torture we deserve then we wouldn’t need gummit to regulate our lives as we would simply follow the rules set in the Bible. This is the communists’ greatest fear that people would be free to live their lives as they wish without their absolute control.
Imagine if science were to investigate the marvel of God’s creation and how it so miraculously relates together rather than attempting to use his design as proof there is no God? Science could actually be a positive to most lives rather than its need to be god and repeatedly use its power to control our lives with all of their junk science decrees. You can see all the failures of science everywhere you look so why do we continue to believe evolution with all of its massive gaps? It is time to evolve from evolution.
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Radiometric dating is one of the most valued and consistently reliable scientific assessments. And yes, while there are assumptions regarding the practice, those are the product of the testing and refining of method. If you have an example of result being driven by desire, I’d be interested in hearing about it.
Thanks for the link to Mt. Blanco.
I suppose they have quite an inventory on hand.
If you bother to look you may understand that they are in fact selling casts of what they found.
What they have found, however, numbers in the thousands and have been studied and verified.
How is that working out?
I am sure by you staying home and not offending anybody you are really bringing people to the cross? Name one person in the Bible who tried your theory. Paul, Stephen, Peter, Simon, oh yeah they were all martyred? Sad huh?
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Looks like you got someone smarter than you on your tail. You may want to leave while you’re behind with your fake proof.
The trick is that stars are created when gravity acts on clouds of gas and compacts them. In the early stages of its life a star spews out vast amounts of water at very high pressure.
Water under very high pressure (50,000 atmospheres or higher) takes the molecular form of a double-helix ~ in very long chains.
A new born star undoubtedly spews out all sorts of other chemicals in long or short chains at the same time. The chemicals of life are all water soluable. Add 2 and 2 together and there you have it. Not being an xenobiologist I can't take you any further into the details.
Which is to say that we may well live in a universe where a fundamental fact of existence is that new stars spew the seeds of life into their own near environment. Sometimes life prospers. Sometimes life doesn't prosper. It may well not need to be shipped in from some other solar system ~
“Genesis posits that it all began with a big bang.”
Really? Chapter and verse, please.
I think Jesus brought people to God, not the cross. I don’t think he would approve of any teaching that drove people away from God.
That was succintly stated. I especially enjoyed the comment, “Evolutionists use the fossil record to draw lines between phyla and it’s the lines that are their proof.” That sits well on top of the fact that their fossil records,when used in conjunction with their geological records, are a cicular argument for determining the age of either group of records. Where the age of the rock is determined/known by the fossils found in it and the age of the fossil is determined/known by the age of the rock it is found in. Incidentally, there is no known uniform stratafication identified as representative data for verifying the dating of those sub sets. Piece-meal is not objective, it is alwys subject to a bias of interpretation.
Ashkenazi Jews and all Finns of whatever ethnic origin (there are several there) score higher than the Chinese, and the Chinese who live in cities and have access to education score higher than everybody else.
And how does challenging evolution drive people away from God? How does pointing out the cult of atheism drive people away from God?
So you accept the explanation on faith. Just what I said.
I came to God, and Christ by trying to prove evolution as being true.
I found God, not because I wanted to, quite the contrary, I fought tooth and nail on a very long journey.
It is a simple process of elimination, a process that continues for most of the secular scientific community as they hold onto the unknown, the next "missing link" that can save them.
Scientists will readily admit that they don't have all the answers, however they put their faith in the process. Ultimately, it is an enterprise based on uncertainty. Always ready and all to willing to accept fraudulent evidence if it advances the theory.
I am a Christian, but I couldn't quote a single passage from the bible.
Nicely done! So we may not be billions and billions of years old due to scientific bias?
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in the beginning God created..... There you have it ~ no antecedent at all. That’s WITH A BANG! not only that, it’s a bang that you don’t see until the density is reduced enough for light to emerge (let there be light is in there BTW). So what are you attacking. Are you against Genesis or the Evolutionists ~ please tell us because arguing against a big bang just doesn’t cut it for we traditionalists.
There is so much beauty in so many Bible passages, and that book is, well, alive in some way that is difficult to describe unless you’ve spent time reading and pondering it.
I strayed pretty badly from my teen years onward into middle age, but found my way back. The scripture I’d credit for that is I Corinthians 15:35-44, but the entirety of I Corinthians 15 is just stunning. Paul was an amazing person with an an amazing mind, it’s just cosmic. Poetic, too.
http://m.youversion.com/bible/kjv/1cor/15
Different people respond differently, though. Maybe those passages don’t sing as much for you as they did and still do for me.
Do try to spend some time with the Bible, though. You’re cheating yourself to an extent.
I've been through the science of dating years ago, so forgive me if I can't hit you with what I've learned in this forum. I don't sit on their websites with links in hand so I can play gotcha.
I will suggest, that if you are at all curious two things will happen:
You will find a boat load of evidence.
You will shoot the messenger.
No the age of this world is totally “up in the air.” What I do know is that, while denied by many, their is objective knowledge that God exists. Any timetable was made by God when the world was created. There is sound rational argumentation proving this existence is not happenstance. To get a teaser of this proof check out my about page on/about the Kalam.
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