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State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with assault rifle
Connecticut Post ^ | January 24, 2013 | Neil Vigdor

Posted on 01/25/2013 10:11:08 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Lt. J. Paul Vance, the face of an ongoing Connecticut State Police investigation into worst grade-school shooting in U.S. history, Thursday debunked media and Internet reports that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza killed his victims with handguns and not the Bushmaster XM-15 E2S rifle that is now the focus of a proposed federal assault-weapons ban.

All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance, who bristled at claims to the contrary during an interview with Hearst Connecticut Newspapers.

"It's all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters," said Vance, the longtime state police spokesman. Multiple Second Amendment and gun owner websites have attempted to cast doubts on whether the Bushmaster XM-15, a type of AR-15 rifle that is currently legal, was used in the Dec. 14 carnage done by Lanza.

Some have cited a Dec. 15 "Today" show video clip from the day after the shooting, in which NBC News Justice Department correspondent Pete Williams said that four handguns were recovered inside Sandy Hook Elementary School and that the Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of a car owned by Lanza's slain mother, Nancy Lanza.

"There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said.

Twenty children ages 7 and under and six female educators were killed when Lanza forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and sprayed the occupants with bullets before turning a gun on himself.

Vance said he made it abundantly clear during his media briefings since the tragedy that Lanza carried out the shooting with the Bushmaster.

"I personally articulated that probably a dozen times in Newtown," Vance said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ctpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; leo; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment
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To: GOPJ

And don’t forget all along the “beltway” (not so much in the heartland cause we take care of it) but anytime these people are in trouble they call for the cops so someone with a gun will rush to help them.


141 posted on 01/25/2013 3:36:37 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: combat_boots

He’d better notice it — I sent it to him

Ohhhh — I get you — never mind


142 posted on 01/25/2013 3:37:25 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: rmh47
Why be so snarky?

Because I am so damn tired of the conspiracy theorists now pretty much running FreeRepublic. And anyone who stands up to them is branded a "troll," a "traitor," falsely accused of all kinds of things... the abuse never ends.

And everything's a conspiracy of some sort. Everything. You can't even have a nutjob go off his nutjob rocker and do what nutjobs are prone to do, without it all being a liberal conspiracy of some sort. Sandy Hook didn't really happen. Sandy Hook was orchestrated by the Obama administration.

Hey, let's pick up one of the earliest, completely fubar news reports from some stupid journalist at MSNBC, and THAT'S the "truth." Why? Simply because it conflicts with everything we've learned since then. And we'll announce to the whole world: Hey, everybody! We've found a CONSPIRACY!

And this is what we are now representing to the world as being "conservative." Apparently, this is what it is anymore to be a "conservative." Do you have any ideas for how to improve things? No. Are you able to articulate what conservatism is all about? No. But we've got a conspiracy theory. And we're going to promote that this week. And next. And the month after that.

And if anybody objects to the lunacy, to this reduction of "conservatism" to nothing more than an anti-Obama version of the Weekly World News, it's: "Why are you so opposed to our just asking questions?"

143 posted on 01/25/2013 3:39:24 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Me, I believe that there is a conspiracy to make FR look like a bunch of drooling kooks.


144 posted on 01/25/2013 3:41:25 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Jeff Winston
It clearly bothers you a great deal. Why not just stay off the threads that upset you?

Just for clarification, since I apparently missed them, what are the other conspiracies you mention in your post - "And everything's a conspiracy of some sort. Everything."

145 posted on 01/25/2013 3:46:16 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Jeff Winston
Seems to me it started with the unrestrained birtherism. I think that led to FR becoming a magnet for conspiracy theorists.

Nah, just trolls.

146 posted on 01/25/2013 3:49:08 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: FreedomForce
My conspiracy theory is...

Now you're a member of the group you just wrote about.
147 posted on 01/25/2013 3:49:22 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: wtc911
Me, I believe that there is a conspiracy to make FR look like a bunch of drooling kooks.

Trying to keep tabs: Who are the conspirators and who are the drooling kooks? Here's your shot.
148 posted on 01/25/2013 3:53:53 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Jeff Winston
Why be so snarky? Because I am so damn tired of the conspiracy theorists now pretty much running FreeRepublic.

Good reason as any to be snarky.
149 posted on 01/25/2013 3:58:23 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Jeff Winston

150 posted on 01/25/2013 4:09:18 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema; Jeff Winston
It clearly bothers you a great deal. Why not just stay off the threads that upset you?

Because then the agnostic contrarian truthers would just run amok on the thread and cause all kinds of chaos that would not be good for anybody.

151 posted on 01/25/2013 4:10:45 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ltc8k6
Tactical reload, which you only get from hands-on training with firearms, or 1st person shooter games.

At the age of 20, unless military (which he was not), Lanza wouldn't have a lot of hands-on with firearms.

152 posted on 01/25/2013 4:14:59 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

At bottom, not a one of us here really wants to think that something like this happened, whether we have hard evidence or not. But, every one of us here knows that Soros already engaged in similar sinister things himself, that al Quds of the IRGC and the ChiComs or the Russkies/Chechyns would pull something like this off without batting an eyelash, if not ENJOY IT. H3ll, Soros no doubt texted 0ba/Jarrett and sent Krystal all around: great return on investment and all that.

And that’s the problem. We don’t want to think any American would do this to our children. But we know there are such people in the world, crazy, evil, desperate or inimical, who would do it for the cost of plane fare and a steak dinner. Some of these people and their allies are now in our government, perhaps at very high levels. The problem is that we know this is LIKELY.

But hey. “What does it matter?”


153 posted on 01/25/2013 4:41:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, I was in the military.

Somehow I doubt the “tactical reload” and FPS shooter explanation. They fit the narrative too well, although they may be true.

My money is on Lanza’s mental state as the explanation for the mag changes and his shooting behaviors, such as shooting one child 11 times.


154 posted on 01/25/2013 4:52:15 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: combat_boots
I wouldn't go so far as to say this was a deliberate mission but I do think there are people in our Government ready to pounce on events like this to promote their agenda.

But you're right, history has shown that some people are capable of hideous deeds to promote and achieve their cause.

155 posted on 01/25/2013 5:01:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: combat_boots

Good post. And I’m overlooking the last line.


156 posted on 01/25/2013 5:16:36 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Uncle Chip
“then why are you clinging to what you heard from these drivebys on that day as now something reliable???”

I'm not clinging to any stories, I'm telling you there has been a lot of conflicting information, even a story about talking to a dead principal.

A lot of the original stories have been scrubbed. But if you read through the one on the NBC video, you can see a lot of contradictions. Also I respect Pete WIlliams. At one time he was the Pentagon Spokesperson. I respected him then and still do. He's not a fly-by-night journalist.

Prior to joining NBC, Williams served as a press aide on Capitol Hill and at the Pentagon for a number of years. In 1986 he joined the Washington, D.C. staff of then Congressman Dick Cheney as press secretary and legislative assistant.[2] In 1989, when Cheney was named Secretary of Defense, Williams was appointed Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, and served as Pentagon Press Secretary. While in that position as the Pentagon's principal spokesman, Williams was named Government Communicator of the Year in 1991 by the National Association of Government Communicators.


“On Saturday morning, Dec. 15, one day after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, NBC’s chief justice correspondent, Pete Williams, spoke with “Today” show host Matt Lauer.

Williams shared “new information this morning from a couple of federal officials and state officials.” Said Williams, “They say now that there were actually four handguns recovered inside the school, not just two as we were initially told; four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.”

Williams said that Lanza also brought an “assault style, AR-15 style rifle” with him to school, but, he added, “We have been told by several officials that he left that in the car.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/what-happened-to-lanzas-4-handguns/#D3Uh7gSCvbYYZQSC.99

157 posted on 01/25/2013 6:20:52 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
Pete Williams apologized for that story later that night on NBC Nightly News.

So which are you going to cling to: his first broadcast that day where he got EVERYTHING in it wrong or his second broadcast that day on the NBC Nightly News in which he apologized for his first broadcast in which he got everything wrong.

Which of those two do you think Pete stands by???

158 posted on 01/25/2013 7:20:19 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
“So which are you going to cling to: his first broadcast that day where he got EVERYTHING in it wrong or his second broadcast that day on the NBC Nightly News in which he apologized for his first broadcast in which he got everything wrong.”

I'm not clinging to anything. I'm open-minded.

I do know that Pete Williams is a highly respected former Pentagon spokesman who I listened to quite a lot when he had that position.

I believe that he talked to a couple of federal officials and state officials just like he said. Whether they changed their story later when pressure was put on them or if Peter Williams misunderstood, I don't know, or if there was pressure put on Pete Williams.

There has been a pattern of disinformation in this case that I've never seen before.

They said that she took Adam to the gun range, but two newspapers looked into the story and couldn't find any place she took him to. Just one incident after another. Some newspapers said that the police said all her guns were registered. Time Magazine said they couldn't find that she had a gun license, which is the law in Connecticut for handguns even if in the house. And no I don't know how thorough a job, Time Mag did, but it's just been one discrepancy after another.

And the fact that they sealed the records doesn't help.


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159 posted on 01/25/2013 8:33:44 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Discrepancy is not a conspiracy. When reporters don’t know sometimes they just take a stab at it.

The police are not afforded that luxury. They cannot say anything unless they know for sure and unless they are permitted by law to release the information.

I find it humorous that the same people that haven’t believed anything that the police have released to date are the same ones whining about the police not releasing more information that they aren’t going to believe anyway.


160 posted on 01/25/2013 9:36:28 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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