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Man raises questions after carrying rifle into JC Penney
KSL.com ^ | January 17th, 2013 | y Paul Nelson and Andrew Wittenberg

Posted on 01/18/2013 8:28:55 AM PST by Daffynition

RIVERDALE — Pictures of a man carrying a rifle inside a big box store in Riverdale are raising a lot of eyebrows. The woman who took them tells KSL the man had no business bringing the gun where he did.

It was supposed to be just a regular trip to the JC Penney. Wednesday night, Cindy Yorgason was in line to return something when she saw a man with some pretty heavy fire power.

"He had the assault rifle over his shoulder," Yorgason said. "He had a handgun on the right side of his belt along with at least one additional clip."

She got out her phone after she said "a couple of other customers started to raise their eyes and look at this guy like, ‘Is he crazy?'"

She never felt threatened, but she believes a place like JC Penney is an inappropriate place to bring a weapon.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; guncontrol; jcpenney; retail; secondamendment
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To: Resettozero

A confident person doesn’t need to go to this extreme to say “Look Look at ME!”. Concealed carry provides protection without making businesses put up MORE RESTRICIONS because of these not too well thought out actions.


41 posted on 01/18/2013 9:06:23 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Conserev1
"Weapons have their place and JCP is not the place for this exhibition."

Why not?

How do you know that no one will ever do a mass shooting in JCP? This dude openly carrying makes sure that it would not happen while he's there.

42 posted on 01/18/2013 9:09:46 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Daffynition

Not like if he opened fire would hit anybody......

JC Penney is DEAD since decided to ditch everything and
go teenbopper and Homosexual.....


43 posted on 01/18/2013 9:13:50 AM PST by njslim (St)
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To: Paladin2

It doesn’t appear that she has a mag inserted which brings up another question where does she have it.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 9:14:27 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: BipolarBob
Carrying a rifle in a mall nowadays is inviting trouble.

To which I say, "Bring it!"

You're knee-jerking this, Bob, and I doubt you're going to find many on this forum who are sympathetic to your beliefs.

Millions of men in American history openly-carried their rifles, shotguns, and pistols, and I bet you couldn't muster more than 100 incidents CAUSED by those carriers.

Carrying a rifle in a mall is a deterrent, IMO. No punk kid, no emo or goth kid, no ghetto fabulous thug is going to approach that man and attempt to take that rifle or even JOKINGLY come up behind him for any reason. It's that sort of normalization that I'm talking about.

Inner city kids and thugs go up to innocent, peaceful Americans in almost daily-documented cases "playing" the "knockout game" or otherwise accosting them. Do you HONESTLY think that they'd even contemplate something like that against a man openly-carrying a rifle and a pistol?

If you want to be limp-wristed in the exercise of your rights, go for it. Personally, I will proudly walk the mall, the grocery store, and through any establishment that allows me to carry my weapon. If they have signs posted stating that they're a gun-free establishment, I shop elsewhere. It's that easy.

45 posted on 01/18/2013 9:14:44 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Daffynition

I he were holding hands with another man would anyone have complained about the guns?


46 posted on 01/18/2013 9:16:07 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

If he were...


47 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:02 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Daffynition
"A Right not exercised is soon lost". Not sure who said it originally, but it seems to apply here.

I'd love to see tooled leather holsters and slings come back as fashion accessories. Not to mention gold inlay, scroll work engraving, etc...

Long gun. Pistol. Broadsword. Chainsaw... Individual Right, individual choice.

The more people realize that "man with weapon" is not automatically an "OMGWTFBBQ" situation, the more people will see it as normal.

This is a good thing.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Rappini

I think it’s a NY legal mag.


49 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: dayglored

I raffed out roud...


50 posted on 01/18/2013 9:18:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: rarestia
Carrying a rifle in a mall nowadays is inviting trouble.
To which I say, "Bring it!"
That's the problem right there. You bring it and then they bring it. First the store puts placards stating "No Firearms Allowed". So much for the protection of the CCW people (who I support)if they get caught. Then metal detectors at malls. Then armed guards. And they will point to YOU and BOZO there as the reason they have to do it. Why give them this gift? Carry concealed and don't be a jerk.
51 posted on 01/18/2013 9:21:17 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob
You bring it and then they bring it.

More good guys than bad guys out there. We'd soon run out of bad guys.

This is not bad for society.

52 posted on 01/18/2013 9:25:05 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: BipolarBob
A confident person doesn’t need to go to this extreme to say “Look Look at ME!”. Concealed carry provides protection without making businesses put up MORE RESTRICIONS because of these not too well thought out actions.

I don't disagree with your comments at all.
53 posted on 01/18/2013 9:25:33 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: BipolarBob

Wow! How old are you, sir? I’m 32 years old, and I’ve never seen it in my day, but I’ve seen pictures of my father and my uncles with their rifles IN SCHOOL. No school shootings back then. I have a picture of my uncle at a gas station putting fuel in his boat with a revolver on his hip.

This was NORMAL just 50 years ago. Now people like you are “afraid” of an “incident” in a mall or a store.

And the whole “Gun Free Zone” argument is a canard. If they want to ban guns, then do it. We’ll patronize businesses that are gun-friendly. You should think the same way, regardless if you carry or not.


54 posted on 01/18/2013 9:31:19 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Rappini
It doesn’t appear that she has a mag inserted which brings up another question where does she have it.

Stuffed into the front of her bikini bottom, of course. ;-) Well, in actuality, it's probably in a pouch affixed to the sling. Either way, those Israeli ladies must have the coolest tan lines ever.

55 posted on 01/18/2013 9:31:19 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Dead Corpse
The persons "bringing it" will be the stores "No Firearms Allowed", judges "Mr. DC I am bound to give you mandatory sentencing because you were carrying a firearm while committing a crime" and the police who will be called and walking you to jail. Your 2nd Amendment Right doesn't extend to private property.
56 posted on 01/18/2013 9:33:26 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob
Your 2nd Amendment Right doesn't extend to private property.

Of course not.

But then again, neither does my business.

If enough people held to principle, it'd be a self-correcting problem.

57 posted on 01/18/2013 9:36:43 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Paladin2

While I’ve pleasured greatly in looking as closely as possible to tell, is there a magazine in that rifle?


58 posted on 01/18/2013 9:37:42 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: rarestia
Wow! How old are you, sir?

I'm older (and wiser LOL) than you. I come from the time we had gun racks in back glass in our unlocked trucks at school. Yeah, 50 years ago it was different. What has changed? People. We have too many of them. And too many screwballs. It is better to be discreet than to go around bragging by showing off. Pride goeth before a fall. And the fall will come when too many show-offs do what you say because either (1) the gun holder reacts when confronted by store-owners/police or the (2) the police over-react to Mr. Harmless not raising his hands quick enough. You're courting disaster unnecessarily.

59 posted on 01/18/2013 9:40:11 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob

Also, why is this guy a “BOZO?” You’re using a LOT of defamatory language to refer to someone exercising his RIGHT to carry a firearm.

The Second Amendment says nothing about concealed carry. It says “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Open-carry is as much “bearing” those arms as is carrying concealed.

Likewise there’s no law about being “quiet” about unsavory elements of society in the press. “If it bleeds, it leads.” So why castigate lawful gun bearers when you likely yell at your TV on a regular basis for journalists being idiots?


60 posted on 01/18/2013 9:42:29 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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