Posted on 01/16/2013 5:55:19 AM PST by Uncle Chip
Apparently many alternative news pundits and Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are still fixated on the idea that a man named Christopher Rodia was the REAL owner of the black Honda Civic that has been identified as the car of Adam Lanza’s mother and which was found outside the Sandy Hook elementary school.
The basis for this erroneous belief is police scanner audio that was picked up from the morning of Dec. 14th and details Connecticut State Police response to the massacre.
I obtained the original audio files from Radioreference.com. I had to pay a small sum for the full files. I have listened to them, and it is pretty clear that it is rather unlikely that the aforementioned Christopher Rodia had anything to do with the Sandy Hook massacre, even if his name and DOB is mentioned in the audio. This doesn’t seem to dissuade the conspiracy nuts though. In fact, it just makes them even nuttier.
What so many of these nutty people have apparently missed is the fact that the audio files clearly contain police communications about MORE than just the Sandy Hook event.
In the audio streams there are several communications from Connecticut State police who are clearly not involved in the response to Sandy Hook and are just out there doing their ‘normal’ jobs of stopping people for no reason and catching speeding drivers.
The Connecticut State police scanner audio from the morning of Dec. 14th 2012, as provided by Radioreference.com, begins at 9.34am and lasts for one hour until 10.34am i.e. it begins at about the time Lanza is said to have entered the school and lasts for one hour.
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Oh, I have seen the claims about actors , the United Way, etc.
To be honest, you should question why things were set up before the date of the incident to find the answer.
The answer was found. I believe one reason is an indexing issue. Another, content of an existing site was changed.
I look at things from a very different perspective. I try to look at what a disinformation specialist might be trying to cover up.
I have watched the show MI5 aka Spooks. The producers consulted with intelligence experts. Of course, some of their scenarios are over the top. It’s a Brit show so the US is not shown in a very good light most of the time.
But I don’t doubt for minute that there is an underlying plausibility to the deception shown on the show.
Or that spooks put their lives on the line, deceive themselves, deceive their fellow workers, deceive their government, deceive the public, do questionable things, end up jaded, and get hung out to dry by their governments....
Their job really is one of the toughest - but deception is the name of the game .
Most of the public just has no idea... and that might be a good thing.
I know we're in the world of 24hr news coverage but why would you think cameras would be rolling at some unknown school at the time this tragedy happened. It was all over by the time the police got there much less the MSM.
1) Some folks don't fully trust the media or the government. They believe in the old "trust but verify" concept. They want to ask questions and they want to examine and weigh the evidence. They say things like "Where is the film? Can I look at it?" so that they can decide for themselves. Got a bunch of those folks on this thread.
2) Some folks deny that anything funny could ever take place, and they believe whatever they are told. "Don't be a nut" they say. Got a bunch of those folks on this thread.
“Interesting she has a head as big as the “Parents” while the other two’s are in normal proportions???”
The heads all look fine to me. Have you done some biometric analysis or something like that?
“I saw a lady on youtube at facebook making a search on Public Records for Adam Lanza. She could NOT find him in CT.”
Public records are usually limited to things like property tax records, court documents, etc. I wouldn’t expect there to be any public records for a young man who lived with his parents, didn’t have a driver’s license, and never held a job or owned a home.
Sure it can be “devastating”. More hyperbole. “Blowing apart”? Please. And you need to ask our Military why they are using 5.56. But I'll tell you what I know. Someone else can fill in the blanks if there is a need.
The 5.56 replace the .30 cal. because the weapon can be lighter. Has less recoil. More controllable. Ammo is much lighter so it's easier to carry. And basically, that's it. Definitely not because it's deadlier.
I'll tell you what. Why don't we just ban anything that can be “devastating” to the human body? Apparently, you missed my point. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.
Good lord, how many times do I have to say that I am not one of those that think Sandy Hook didn’t happen.
I want to know why you don’t see the helicopter shots of the 456 kids, or even 300 kids. Where are all of the pictures of the parents picking up their 456 kids. Etc.
Where is the PHOTOGRAPHIC evidence of the helicopter shots. All you have seen is a few shots of a few kids.
Does that make sense to you in this age of media????
And YES, I don’t believe her or disbelieve her. What about her statement of MULTIPLE black shirts. True or False?
Did it happen?
DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE????
And if so, why aren’t you questioning why there were multiple black shirts?
I understand your concern. And you can attribute any of my misstatements to ignorance.
But to deny that 26 people were killed that day in the school with a Bushmaster just because to do so might prevent a weapons ban is not the road to travel.
Investigators are supposed to go where the facts lead and that Bushmaster is where the facts lead.
If it had been done with 4 handguns only which was the narrative early on from the Federales, then it would be handguns that they would be after — not the ARs. So don’t let them make you go all stupid.
Instead the NRA and GOA should concentrate on how the shooting could have been prevented with one handgun in the top drawer of the principal and someone in that office prepared and willing to use it.
A healthy skepticism is fine, but asking "where are the girl's legs?" in a family photo is not healthy skepticism. It's quackery.
That’s a good question. It is a small community.
There was at least one media person there taking pictures of a few kids being taken out of a classroom. So someone was there.
She had a camera. There is helicopter footage so we know there was a helicopter.
Is it possible that evidence has been confiscated?
Or pressure has been put on not to release it?
Personally, I think it is suspicious that there is so little photographic evidence. Which makes me wonder what is going on.
NOT that the incident didn’t happen.
The basic problem is people whose entire knowledge of the world comes from movies, TV dramas, Alex Jones, and a collection of idiot websites.
Movies and TV shows lack the "noise" and confusion of the real world, because they're telling a story, and they don't have time. EVERYTHING in a TV show "means" something. Everything in the "real world" does not. In the real world there are random mistakes, confusing and contradictory reports, odd-looking photos, meaningless coincidences, etc., none of which are evidence for a conspiracy.
“Instead the NRA and GOA should concentrate on how the shooting could have been prevented with one handgun in the top drawer of the principal and someone in that office prepared and willing to use it.”
Agreed.
“A healthy skepticism is fine, but asking “where are the girl’s legs?” in a family photo is not healthy skepticism. It’s quackery.”
So only you get to determine what is a nut and what is healthy?
The fact is you can’t see her legs.
THAT IS A FACT.
The question is why.
What is the answer?
Instead of carefully looking at the photo to determine if it is photoshopped you just claim nutter.
People with SUPPOSED expertise in photoshopping and photography say it has been photoshopped.
What if it has been photoshopped and the REASON it was photoshopped was part of the disinformation campaign to make people scream “NUTTER”.
Interesting theory.
Btw, Democrats are experts at this tactic. Some say the controversy over Obama’s Birth Certificate started with Axelrod so he could claim “NUTTER” in order to try to hide something else.
Or it could be she is just all twisted up in that photo.
But instead of discerning what is taking place you scream “
NUTTER”
You don’t believe this mother who lives in the community and has no reason to lie, and yet you believe the reports of multiple black shirts??? Where are the pictures??? Where are the videos of these black shirts??? Two can play that game.
You missed group #3, the group that pretends that is just has unanswered questions, but is really committed to pushing a conspiracy theory, of some sort or another, because they don’t want to have to deal with the reality of a world where Sandy Hook might have actually happened. That group will never be satisfied even if you give them all the evidence they want to look at, or answer all of their questions. They’ll just seize on some other detail and spin a new conspiracy theory.
Fact is the accounts of witness interviews immediately following the event differ from the official story as told today. Someone is lying.
Alas, your comment DEFINITELY doesn’t apply to me...though you are making it out to be the case.
“In the real world there are random mistakes, confusing and contradictory reports, odd-looking photos, meaningless coincidences, etc., none of which are evidence for a conspiracy.”
Btw, I can tell you must assuredly that you can take your sentence and remove the word “random” and it forms a basis for the disinformation specialist.
And YES, they do exist - under various names.
I think it is interesting that some have tracked back the info on the Conspiracy website Abovetopsecret and believe it leads them to the conclusion that it is connected to Intelligence Services.
Is it? I don’t know.
Could it be?
Of course.
There was another call by a male but I’m not sure. It could have been the custodian or even the father [Manfredonia] who was outside the school that they chased up into the woods and detained.
THAT IS A FACT.
The question is why.
What is the answer?
It looks like both girls are straddling their Dad's legs. Who cares? Why is this worth an ounce of brain activity from anyone?
But instead of discerning what is taking place you scream “ NUTTER”
Do you believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government? Because I'm familiar with just about every Truther claim there is, even the one that claims the planes were holograms. And they're all much more convincing than any of the Sandy Hook Truther arguments.
Were there 2 guys in the woods? Manfredonia was not the guy wearing camo in the woods.
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