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Posted on 01/10/2013 10:37:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
According to The Washington Post, the Obama administration is considering a “national database” of all firearms in the United States to “track the movement and sale of weapons.” If such a database comes to fruition the database will lead to confiscation.
Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.
As recently as last winter law abiding gun owners who had complied with the registry were having their rifles confiscated. In late 2011 hundreds if not thousands of people who had legally purchased the Armi Jager AP80, a .22 calibre variant of the AK47, were informed that their rifles had been deemed illegal and must be surrendered .
“You are required by law to return your firearm registration certificates, without delay, either by mail to the address shown in the top left corner of this page or in person to a peace officer or firearms officers. You have 30 days to deliver your firearms to a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer or to otherwise lawfully dispose of them,” read the letter sent by the Canadian Firearms Centre.
The reason for the need to surrender what had been legal firearms was simply cosmetic, the AP 80 looked too similar to the AK47. There were no interchangeable parts between the two rifles, the rifles used vastly different ammunition, had vastly different uses but they looked the same.
What was more worrisome was that the decision to reclassify what for years had been a legal rifle was made by a bureaucrat not by elected officials. There was no debate, no vote just a decision by a bureaucrat who felt the AP80, legally owned for decades, was too dangerous to be privately owned by Canadians.
Of course confiscation of firearms could just be the start, confiscation of homes and cars could also come to the USA.
Former Marine Joshua Boston recently wrote a scathing response to Senator Diane Feinstein’s gun control proposals saying that he would not register his guns. That could cost him everything.
Bruce Montague, a gunsmith from Dryden, Ontario faces the possibility of having his home seized for failure to register his firearms. Montague’s decision not to register was purely political, he wanted to challenge the constitutionality of the gun registry. When his constitutional challenge failed and Montague was convicted the government of Ontario moved to seize his home under its proceeds of crime legislation. They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.
If the United States follows Canada’s lead in registering all guns into a national database then the confiscation of rifles and shotguns won’t be far behind.
Brian Lilley is the host of Byline on Sun News Network
Yes, there is that. And, marktwain, your characterization of bloodlust of the corrupt MSM is spot on.
Whew!
Nothing Registered, Nothing Confiscated....
I'm in Texas and this is covered by law. My husband died of cancer while at home. The funeral home director was a friend of mine and knew my husband was dying. He kept me informed of his whereabouts so I could call him to come when it happened. When I called him to come, he said he had to inform the police someone had died at home.
The policeman came and immediately said he was sorry he had to intrude. He did have to take the husband's medicines but there was no search - it was all in one place where the registered nurse kept it. I did have registered nurses there 24-7 due to a tube into the husband's stomach. The nurse dealt with the policeman so I wouldn't be bothered at that time. If the nurse had not been there, it would have been okay since the policeman was reverent and kind.
Anyway, any time a person dies at home for any reason, the police have to come if it is Texas. I don't know about other states.
I forgot to cover taking weapons if a person dies at home. If Feinstein’s bill passes, those people who already have assault “looking” weapons that become outlawed, will be registered and on the death of the owner, the gun has to be given to law enforcement, so yes, I think police would take the gun when they came to the house due to the death of the owner.
Yes, he can. Executive orders are for the executive branch of the government which Hussein controls. He can write rules and regulations for any of his departments. Any of his agencies dealing with firearms can be issued new orders to have them write regulations that ban certain firearms, certain ammo, certain magazines, and register certain weapons - all in the name of public safety. He IS going to do it within a week if not sooner.
Biden’s committee report comes out next Tuesday and he has already said Eric Holder is working with him and the president to write executive orders. It will be done, no doubt about it.
P4L
/johnny
I guarantee he will make the attempt...
Then I, and many others, will become criminals in the eyes of a tyrannical government, in which case I am not morally bound to comply.
Then I, and many others, will become criminals in the eyes of a tyrannical government, in which case I am not morally bound to comply.
What a great way to take out the trash, flush those rotten, old stinky floaters and pour some chlorine into the tainted DC Koolaide they guzzle by the gallon!!!
If that fact doesn't stop them, then their anti-gun karma will come back around in a different way.
GovCo actions like these will simply teach formerly law abiding, upstanding citizens to learn the revolutionary's David v. Goliath mindset and motivate many to act on it.
I'm sure many have learned a great deal from GovCo's sending them to fight and counter the islamocrazies and "won't be kind" to domestic enemies acting against us and our Constitutionally guaranteed rights
Obama could write an EO stating that the planet Venus is now the Sun. He can write an EO to state anything, however, it doesn’t mean it will be legal or effective, and ultimately, it will utterly fail.
“Obama could write an EO stating that the planet Venus is now the Sun. He can write an EO to state anything,”
An EO is not a “statement”. It is directives/orders to his departments to do “x”, to take action to do “x” and they do it.
I know exactly what it is.
BTW, government officials who have take the oath to defend the Constitution are not suppose to obey unConstitutional orders.
take = taken
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To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.
Canada Ping!
All of my guns have been sold. I dont own a single one, nor do I have any ammo at all.
Its ALL gone.
Canada does not have a 2nd amendment.
Our country does. We have a right to bear arms which shall NOT be infringed.
I see an awful lot of infringement talk. Americans do not need a court , a politician or a policeman to tell them what the 2nd amendment means, and ordinary citizens can enforce the 2nd amendment, because thats their duty.
Many statutes are written with language which delegates certain authority to particular executive officials, for example the NFA'34 regards as destructive devices various things including firearms with a bore diameter over 0.5" which the Secretary of the Treasury does not deem suitable for hunting or sporting purposes. The President's authority over executive officials gives pretty strong power to direct what "findings" they should make. The reclassification of the Street Sweeper as a destructive device was a consequence of such authority; his Secretary of the Treasury found that such weapons weren't suitable for hunting or sporting purposes (not an unreasonable finding actually, such weapons are far more suitable for groups of attackers that they have urgent business elsewhere), and the pre-existing statute language meant that such weapons were thus "destructive devices". While it's impossible to tell what would happen Obama gave an executive order that directed officials to do things that were patently outside their authority, I doubt many officials would be eager to risk their lives in an effort to uphold such an order. At minimum, I'd expect them to come up with some pretext about bureaucratic requirements.
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