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1 posted on 01/09/2013 10:39:19 AM PST by Theoria
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‘California weed’ apparently.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 10:46:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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They will allow the ‘search’ without consent.

After their earlier upholding of HealthControl, the United States is a totalitarian state as defined in conventional political science. The rest will follow.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/totalitarian+state


3 posted on 01/09/2013 10:47:14 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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Make em get a warrent. If the police feel they don’t need one for a DUI case, they may expand it to other areas where a warrent is now required.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 10:50:30 AM PST by jaydubya2
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Truly it’s immaterial in almost every place I am aware of, because they have laws on the books if you don’t give a sample, automatic penalties and suspensions kick in, so it’s not like they are going to be able to somehow skirt negative consequences if they don’t give a sample.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 10:50:45 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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Isn’t the failure of 4 field sobriety tests enough?


6 posted on 01/09/2013 10:51:16 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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The penalty for not taking the test is usually worse than failing the test....at least for the first offense.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 10:56:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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Here in Washington State a refusal to perform routine roadside tests or submit to a blood test automatically causes your drivers license to be suspended for six months.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 10:56:49 AM PST by beelzepug ("Why bother creating wealth when you can just redistribute it?")
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In fact you can’t force one. There are legal solutions to make people agree to a test. For example, in Russia refusal to take a sober test is an offence itself, punished by suspension of driver’s license for a year or so.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 10:58:02 AM PST by cunning_fish
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Every state has “implied consent” laws - when you get a drivers’ license, if you’re arrested for drunk/drugged driving, you give consent to have a breath/blood/urine test administered to determine if you were intoxicated. You have no legal right to condition taking the test on your lawyer showing up. Driving is a privilege and not a constitutional right.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 10:58:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Here in Florida, you can refuse the blood test, but you have to give up your license at that point........


11 posted on 01/09/2013 10:59:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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Here in Indiana the police routinely get a warrant for a forced blood draw if someone refuses the breath test. It only takes about 40 minutes.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 11:04:27 AM PST by circlecity
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While it is immaterial whether you take any tests, it is the observations that make the case. This may be in line with busting the drugged up fools and how that is viewed in the lower courts.
19 posted on 01/09/2013 11:11:04 AM PST by Domangart
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In Idaho there is “implied consent” when you receive your driver’s license that you will submit to a blood test. I personally think it’s a crock.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 11:24:40 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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..with a judges search warrant.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 11:30:34 AM PST by TexasCajun
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As a nurse, I would never draw blood from a person that does not want to give a sample; cops asking or court ordered. Under the laws of most states (and rulings of medical/nursing boards), performing a medical procedure of any type on a person against their will is considered assault - and a warrant does not absolve one of that legal liability and risk to licensure.


38 posted on 01/09/2013 11:50:29 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Keep a vial of blood handy in case you’re pulled over. Problem solved!


41 posted on 01/09/2013 12:00:23 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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"The Obama administration, however, backs up Missouri in its contention that the need for quick blood-alcohol testing outweighs any individual privacy interest."

Of course they do, they work daily at rendering the entire Bill of Rights moot. They've been so successful at destroying the 4th Amendment that its existence is barely even mentioned any longer.

42 posted on 01/09/2013 12:04:54 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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Well, after the fourth policeman shot me with his taser, I gave them a urine sample. My pants filtered it, somewhat.


53 posted on 01/09/2013 12:48:41 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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They do in Las Vegas. If you refuse they will tackle you to the floor, pin you down and stick a needle in your arm.

Thats what they did to me.

I was just going to Walmart to get some taco shells.

Welcome to the police state.


56 posted on 01/09/2013 1:17:48 PM PST by FoxPro
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