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1 posted on 01/07/2013 7:24:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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say WHA???

It totally blew-up in Mr. Newt’s face (with tons and tons of help from the MSM, who are a thousand times more in Obama’s corner even than they were in Clinton’s)

Methinks Mr. Newt wants John Boner to claim the albatross from around his neck.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 7:27:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Not interested in Newt.


4 posted on 01/07/2013 7:30:17 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

While it didnt work that well for Newt,
I think he made some other good points on this,
Obama and Pelosi have been on TV for weeks claiming its the House GOPs fault for passing the spending bills that must NOW be honored by increasing the debt.
He suggests compiling those vids and using it against them when O and Reid shutdown the government and blame the House, “Here they (P+O) are on tape telling you that we should cut spending”.

I think that is a better plan than holding up the debt limit. Newt has his moments


6 posted on 01/07/2013 7:35:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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say WHA??? It totally blew-up in Mr. Newt’s face (with tons and tons of help from the MSM, who are a thousand times more in Obama’s corner even than they were in Clinton’s)

You have Bob Dole the Senate Majority leader and soon to be presidential candidate to blame for that. He was pushing Newt to end the shutdown and take a deal, any deal because Dole believed it was endangering his presidential aspirations that he was perceived as being equally involved in the shutdown.

The sad thing is that Clinton Whitehouse insiders have said that Clinton had decided to give Newt most of the cuts he was asking for and was drawing up the plan, when the Republican's blinked first. We might very well be in a much better financial situation today if Newt would have held out another week and got the serious cuts he wanted.

7 posted on 01/07/2013 7:37:59 AM PST by apillar
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Typical Gingrich.

Every 2-4 years, he is on the news programs advocating that the government should shut down.

Like his government shutdown was such a success — he ended up losing his speakership.


8 posted on 01/07/2013 7:41:18 AM PST by TomGuy
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Shut the government down until the dims vote to implement the Paul Mac Penney Plan, adding a continuous process improvement component. This plan eliminates baseline budgeting and reduces federal spending one percent per year until the budget is balanced. Who could not endure a one percent reduction in income without any reduction in the standard of living? And the cuts are across the board so it is completely fair. Ridicule anyone who objects to it. This is the only option I believe is doable. Once the people engage they will look at the dims and say why not? We can win this with this approach provided we have a spine and a bit of grit in our attitude.
9 posted on 01/07/2013 7:42:51 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Source

What Happens When The Government Shuts Down

EXCERPT:

Big Government: The CRS report is explicit regarding those government services that will not be disrupted. Cut and pasted directly from the report:

Essential Services and Personnel

A 1980 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) memorandum defines “essential” government services and “essential” employees as those:

  1. providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;
  2. providing for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year or other funds remaining available for those purposes;
  3. conducting essential activities to the extent that they protect life and property, including:

Let me be absolutely clear here. There will be no disruption in Social Security, welfare, civil service retirement, or any other kind of open-ended mandatory program payments. The mail will not stop because the Post Office is largely self-funding (with you know, those stamps you buy to mail things with). Air traffic controllers will not go on furlough, jets will keep flying, the Border Patrol will keep on attempting to secure the border that Janet Napolitano wants unsecured, and our military will stay in the fight, however poorly and treasonously led by the current Commander-in-Chief.

Will there be adverse effects? Absolutely. We are talking about a government shutdown. But they are not the dire consequences Democrats are hyping. The only people who will really notice the government shutdown are government workers themselves, and most importantly, Congressional Democrats.

Notice that the CRS Report link is directly from the Democrats’ House Rules Committee website. So the Democrats know all this, but they blatantly lie about it. They have an advantage in doing this because the media relentlessly echoes their message.

Do not allow the media or hyperventilating Democrats to scare you into believing that the world will come to an end if the government shuts down. I advise you to go to the Congressional Research Service report and read for yourself exactly what the true effects are of a government shutdown.

Clifton is a Conservative and blogs at Another Black Conservative

13 posted on 01/07/2013 7:53:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Really Newt? And how did that work out for you? Oh, waitaminute, you were the EX speaker of the House by the end of 1998... Anyone that listens to this clown and takes him seriously is unwittingly aiding and abetting the Dems...


16 posted on 01/07/2013 8:16:36 AM PST by PauldArco
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Sounds like.

Can't hurt. The status quo ain't workin.

24 posted on 01/07/2013 8:52:49 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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Monica Lewinsky totally needs a new gig.


25 posted on 01/07/2013 8:53:15 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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The argument that we can’t hold up the debt limit because of “already incurred debt” is ludicrous. The debt limit is about NEW BORROWING. All existing borrowing was for bills we already paid. And the 14th amendment guarantees that debt — it would be the first thing we would cover with our revenue.

But furthermore, the debt limit is a better vehicle to fight for cuts than the continuing resolution, precisely because the debt limit doesn’t shut down government.

The debt limit simply stops us from borrowing more money, limiting us to spend only what we receive in revenue. So what exactly gets shut down would be all up to Obama, subject to any specific priorities that might have been snuck into specific legislation.

There is nothing that requires the president to do an across-the-board cut of equal value when he loses additional borrowing authority.

The continuing resolution can be used by the senate and the president, if they want, to force republicans to shut down government and get blamed for it. We could pass individual bills to control what gets shut down, but the senate would simply not act, the president would veto if it did pass, and would argue with the media help that we were playing games.

Plus, a government shutdown is a very disruptive thing. Conservatives sometimes like to pretend that they would love the government to disappear, but they don’t mean it, and it would be disastrous. As it is, there are some safeguards that allow the government to continue some core functions during a shutdown (this itself is not clearly constitutional or legal, but nobody seems upset by the idea that the president can continue to pay troops and operate prisons, even if congress has not passed a law which authorizes spending any money on those things; oddly, if congress specifically removes spending for something from the bill they DO pass, we EXPECT the executive to NOT spend that money, but if we pass no authorization at ALL, then it’s OK...)

BTW, the house has passed good bills for spending, but the media doesn’t even REPORT them, so nobody knows that all the spending bills are rotting away in the senate. This protects the senators from having to vote on things they don’t want to vote on, and the president from having to veto programs that are popular because the bills have too little spending on his pet projects.

But the House should get on this right now. We should pass the debt limit bill as part of a budget authorization that limits spending to what we want. The debt limit should include quarterly or yearly increases that precisely match the deficit we have placed in the budget we pass.

Then we should pass small continuing resolutions, one for each of the 13 called-out appropriations, which reflect OUR spending priorities, and include the deficit reduction we want.

We should publish these bills, and then every representative should be out speaking about this, every day, until we break through the media and the nation understands that all the spending is passed, and waiting for the democrats to either pass in the senate, or to pass their own version so we can do conferences and finish the job.

We shouldn’t say ONE WORD about a government shutdown. A shutdown is not part of any plan. Our plan should be to appropriately and sensibly fund government, and we should keep passing bills that do that. Government shutdown should happen only if the democrats refuse to pass a bill, or the president refuses to sign a bill.

Again, that’s the nice thing about the debt limit. There is absolutely no reason we HAVE to pass a new debt limit bill. The current debt limit bill authorized the existing debt, and we have sufficient revenue to pay for essential services. And we’d see what Obama thinks is essential, and could make the argument be of PRIORITIES — “Look, these people aren’t getting a core government service, because Obama is handing out money to wind companies that do us no real good”


30 posted on 01/07/2013 9:46:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Hopefully with Texas’ new senator Ted Cruz, we will hear less from and less about old has-been Newt.


31 posted on 01/07/2013 9:47:21 AM PST by TexasCajun
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My Favorite Newt
32 posted on 01/07/2013 9:50:41 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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A few trillion$ and years late, but still the self-serving clown will sit upon whoever’s couch is perceived to make Newtie look better today.


34 posted on 01/07/2013 9:57:44 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Newt Gingrich: GOP Should Consider A Government Shutdown, It Works

Would this poser please SHUT THE HELL UP? When Noot was Speaker, he didn't have the balls to shut the government down. After Clinton shut it down, Noot allowed Clinton to place all the blame on him. If Noot had been worth a damn, he would have told Clinton, "Damn right I shut it down. And everyone can see now that all that money you spend serves no critical purpose". But no, instead Noot shows what a weak ass he is and immediately increases the debt ceiling for Slick while getting absolutely nothing in return.

39 posted on 01/07/2013 10:10:27 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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I'd shut it down to fight my principles is what he is saying. Can't take away the baby's bottle to find a better one. How can one improve the government if we can't stop the spending. Stop the spending and re organize. Our government up there needs rebuilding and starting over/cutting departments and waste/firing people that do nothing all day that 20 or 50 depts. are hired to do one job. It's a corrupt system and nothing is working as is. Keep programs that do work. We all balance our books, why can't they!

This is becoming too often from the same posters. Newt left the speakership because his lieutenants ( people that he help to bring on with the positive agenda) were worried that they would loose their jobs since the media went after Newt for impeaching their tool for their agenda Bill/the real woman chaser. More important, the big liar. It was pay back. He wrote a book. He taught a traditional history class. O My word! That was all it was. He was punished by some followers for his marriage problems. He has never blamed the standard of right and wrong for his sins. Why can't we get that settled.

He could have hidden in a room and not said to his lieutenants ( Like Santorium) don't pursue Clinton's lying under oath. He went after Clinton when they said..we must stop or we can suffer political damage. Who admires that. Clinton is a disgrace. Now, people build him up like he's all that. Clinton's appeasement and failures brought 9/11 and his hag wife, made sure her media and Bill's help to put the pressure on Newt to leave. You guys want change then complain someone speaks tough. Clinton did change due to Newt. Now, Obama has turned it all back around. Thanks in part to the weak republicans as he is saying. ( I will never forget Clinton what he did and did not do in Kosovo. He should be in prison IMO.) Now he's walking around like some freaking statesman. Same stupid/agenda driven people now build him up along with his corrupt wife.. and some are worried about Newt. Grow up and stop rewriting history. Let the government be helped for reforms.

42 posted on 01/07/2013 10:17:08 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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