Posted on 01/07/2013 7:24:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
NEWT GINGRICH: Let me ask you this. And I appreciate E.J.'s support here. But I want to make a point that probably he may not be as enthusiastic about. They have two vehicles. They have a continuing resolution, which is at the end of March, and they have the sequester bill. Now, these are legitimate government spending bills. The debt ceiling is different because it triggers all of these international financial problems and triggers the credit of the United States. They don't have to say, "We're going to be wimps." I've helped closed the government twice. It actually worked. Bill Clinton came in and said, "The era of big government's over," after two closings. Not before.
DAVID GREGORY: You also wrote in your memoir that you regretted it from the point of view, you relied too much on the enthusiasm of the activists and didn't factor in the disdain of the American people.
NEWT GINGRICH: But, no, we got reelected for the first time since 1928. And we would argue we would never have gotten to a balanced budget and we would have never have gotten welfare reform without that fight. So I think if the Congressional Republicans want to say, "You're going to have a really hard time with continuing resolution," that's perfectly legitimate. And it's a exactly the right grounds. And then take the president's speech from yesterday in which he said, "Once you have spent it, you have an obligation." And that's when I say, "Terrific. We agree."
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say WHA???
It totally blew-up in Mr. Newt’s face (with tons and tons of help from the MSM, who are a thousand times more in Obama’s corner even than they were in Clinton’s)
Methinks Mr. Newt wants John Boner to claim the albatross from around his neck.
RE: It totally blew-up in Mr. Newt’s face
Sure it did... but we got a balance budget for the trouble. What is it we want? To win politically, or what’s good for the country?
Not interested in Newt.
It’s Monday. It’s Newt’s day to play conservative.
While it didnt work that well for Newt,
I think he made some other good points on this,
Obama and Pelosi have been on TV for weeks claiming its the House GOPs fault for passing the spending bills that must NOW be honored by increasing the debt.
He suggests compiling those vids and using it against them when O and Reid shutdown the government and blame the House, “Here they (P+O) are on tape telling you that we should cut spending”.
I think that is a better plan than holding up the debt limit. Newt has his moments
You have Bob Dole the Senate Majority leader and soon to be presidential candidate to blame for that. He was pushing Newt to end the shutdown and take a deal, any deal because Dole believed it was endangering his presidential aspirations that he was perceived as being equally involved in the shutdown.
The sad thing is that Clinton Whitehouse insiders have said that Clinton had decided to give Newt most of the cuts he was asking for and was drawing up the plan, when the Republican's blinked first. We might very well be in a much better financial situation today if Newt would have held out another week and got the serious cuts he wanted.
Typical Gingrich.
Every 2-4 years, he is on the news programs advocating that the government should shut down.
Like his government shutdown was such a success — he ended up losing his speakership.
It blew up because of bob dole. In 1995 we had both the senate and house. we had newt in the house but the weak link was dole. Now we only have the house and the speaker is essentially a ‘bob dole’.
With this weak team - conservatives in the house must go around the MSM and try to convince voters that we don’t want to be greece.
SOURCE: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=84809
Government Shutdown: 12 Things That Would & Wouldn’t Happen
Here’s what would and wouldn’t be affected if Congress can’t come to an agreement by the deadline:
What would be shut down or curtailed
Veterans services
During the last government shutdown 15 years ago, many veterans services were cut back, from health and welfare to finance and travel.
Parks and museums
National parks and museums would shut down and lose revenue from patrons.
In the last shutdowns in late 1995 and early 1996, the government closed 368 National Park Service sites, along with national museums and monuments.
Passports
Those seeking passports or other documents would not be able to do so.
During the last shutdown, 200,000 passport applications went unprocessed. In addition, the tourism industry and airlines reportedly suffered millions of dollars in losses.
Social Security
During the last shutdown, the Social Security Administration kept enough staff in place to ensure benefits were paid out, but new claims weren’t processed. As the shutdown wore on, the agency recalled workers to start processing new claims.
Government employees
A shutdown would result in the furlough of hundreds of thousands of federal employees. While on furlough, federal employees won’t receive a paycheck, and neither will government contractors. Federal employees will eventually receive back-pay, but contractors won’t be so lucky.
States
Federal funds to states would be cut off, leaving states already in a cash crunch to somehow fill the gap.
Law enforcement and legal services
During the last shutdown, delays occurred in the processing of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives applications by the ATF. Federal agencies suspended work on more than 3,500 bankruptcy cases and canceled recruitment and testing of federal law enforcement officials.
What would be kept running
National security
President Obama has the discretion to keep certain government functions operating, especially when they are essential to keeping the nation safe, including the military, coast guard, foreign relations staff, border patrol and other national security officials.
The U.S. Postal Service wouldn’t be affected and mail would still be delivered.
Transportation
Air traffic controllers would remain on the job.
Prisons
There would be no change to federal prison staff.
Disaster/Emergency services
Emergency and disaster assistance personnel would also be at work.
Unrelated. He resigned in 1999, the shutdowns were in 95 and 96.
It is undeniable that after that showdown the growth of government spending slowed considerably, particularly compared to the periods before and after his role as Speaker of the House.
I'm not a Newt fanboy, but despite the media spin on the shutdown he did prevail in substance.
Big Government: The CRS report is explicit regarding those government services that will not be disrupted. Cut and pasted directly from the report:
Essential Services and Personnel
A 1980 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) memorandum defines “essential” government services and “essential” employees as those:
- providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;
- providing for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year or other funds remaining available for those purposes;
- conducting essential activities to the extent that they protect life and property, including:
- medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care;
- activities essential to ensure continued public health and safety, including safe use of food, drugs, and hazardous materials;
- continuance of air traffic control and other transportation safety functions and the protection of transport property;
- border and coastal protection and surveillance;
- protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, equipment and other property owned by the United States;
- care of prisoners and other persons in the custody of the United States;
- law enforcement and criminal investigations;
- emergency and disaster assistance;
- activities essential to the preservation of the essential elements of the money and banking system of the United States, including borrowing and tax collection activities of the Treasury; and
- activities necessary to maintain protection of research property.
Let me be absolutely clear here. There will be no disruption in Social Security, welfare, civil service retirement, or any other kind of open-ended mandatory program payments. The mail will not stop because the Post Office is largely self-funding (with you know, those stamps you buy to mail things with). Air traffic controllers will not go on furlough, jets will keep flying, the Border Patrol will keep on attempting to secure the border that Janet Napolitano wants unsecured, and our military will stay in the fight, however poorly and treasonously led by the current Commander-in-Chief.
Will there be adverse effects? Absolutely. We are talking about a government shutdown. But they are not the dire consequences Democrats are hyping. The only people who will really notice the government shutdown are government workers themselves, and most importantly, Congressional Democrats.
Notice that the CRS Report link is directly from the Democrats’ House Rules Committee website. So the Democrats know all this, but they blatantly lie about it. They have an advantage in doing this because the media relentlessly echoes their message.
Do not allow the media or hyperventilating Democrats to scare you into believing that the world will come to an end if the government shuts down. I advise you to go to the Congressional Research Service report and read for yourself exactly what the true effects are of a government shutdown.
Clifton is a Conservative and blogs at Another Black Conservative
Newt cant admit he lost on TV, but there is a reason he lost and it was simple. He let Americans think the GOP was shutting down the government rather than Clinton, and he did because he didnt understand Americans outside of a minority of his caucus. He thought it would be very popular.
This time the GOP would have to do prep work to convince voters that its Reid and O who are shutting down the government.
The other thing that is VERY DIFFERENT is that in 1995/96, the economy and debt of the US Government was no where near the disaster that it is today. I believe a majority of voters would approve of a Government shut down now, in spite of the predictable MSM's hysterics that will follow.
Really Newt? And how did that work out for you? Oh, waitaminute, you were the EX speaker of the House by the end of 1998... Anyone that listens to this clown and takes him seriously is unwittingly aiding and abetting the Dems...
Obama has already said he will negotiate, but everything is off the table except what he wants.
So we can either "negotiate" on Obama's terms or we can we can bring to bear the constitutional authority and responsibility of the House.
Let’s review recent history shall we?
Gingrich and the incoming Republican majority’s promise to slow the rate of government spending conflicted with Clinton’s agenda for Medicare, education, the environment and public health, leading to two temporary shutdowns of the federal government totaling 28 days.
Clinton said Republican amendments would strip the U.S. Treasury of its ability to dip into federal trust funds to avoid a borrowing crisis. Republican amendments would have limited appeals by death-row inmates, made it harder to issue health, safety and environmental regulations, and would have committed the president to a seven-year balanced budget. Clinton vetoed a second bill allowing the government to keep operating beyond the time when most spending authority expires.
A GOP amendment opposed by Clinton would have not only have increased Medicare Part B premiums, but it would also cancel a scheduled reduction. The Republicans held out for an increase in Medicare part B premiums in January 1996 to $53.50 a month. Clinton favored the then current law, which was to let the premium that seniors pay drop to $42.50.
The government closed most non-essential offices during the shutdown, which was the longest in U.S. history. The shutdown ended when Clinton agreed to submit a CBO-approved balanced budget plan.
Looking back — WHAT WAS SO BAD ABOUT THAT?
We found out that we could survive a government shutdown and in the end — WE GOT A BALANCED BUDGET, which led to rare surpluses in the late 1990’s and a booming economy to boot.
“The sad thing is that Clinton Whitehouse insiders have said that Clinton had decided to give Newt most of the cuts he was asking for and was drawing up the plan, when the Republican’s blinked first.”
Don’t interrupt the kapo-conservatives when they are trying to get us all in the showers in an orderly way.
Call me a skeptic, but in an era where the MSM convinced most of the voters who were exit polled that the crappy economy is still Bush’s fault....I can’t see this working.
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