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Michael Barone: Obama's numbers went down, but Romney never inspired voters to vote
Washington Examiner ^ | December 25, 2012 | Michael Barone

Posted on 12/26/2012 9:21:54 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Major Matt Mason
That arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave intended to steal the election no matter who our nominee was going to be.

Why do you think he was so sure to get reelected long before Romney was nominated when he told that Russian president that he would have more flexibility after the election, even though he got 4,270,980 less votes then in 2008?

It also helped him that he got the ignorant to reelect him

61 posted on 12/27/2012 5:24:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them.)
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To: Strategerist
That's what I said -- educate Moderates and explain that Conservative ideas have a history of working and that Obama's ideas have a history of not working.

When the country is in trouble, people should support ideas that actually work. Sell that notion.

62 posted on 12/27/2012 5:24:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: neverdem
BS- I saw lines like never before where I vote

NotObamney had people willing to crawl over glass to vote

I think votes were lost or stolen

There were some places where Obama got over 100% of the vote

It is harder to manufacture votes for someone than it is to delete votes for the opposition- how do you prove your vote was NOT counted?

This is why the polls were all skewed +10% democrap- they knew that they were planning to do beforehand

63 posted on 12/27/2012 5:29:51 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: NeoCaveman

My point is, if there were a bunch of “stay at home conservatives” who didn’t vote because Romney wasn’t conservative enough, then why did Romney lose so many fewer votes in the Bible Belt than the rest of the country, compared to Bush?


64 posted on 12/27/2012 5:37:13 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: NeoCaveman

That is, wouldn’t you think there would be a lot more “stay at home conservatives” in Arkansas than in Oregon?

Romney did 4% better than Bush in Arkansas (even accounting for population growth) but 11% worse than Bush in Oregon.


65 posted on 12/27/2012 5:40:50 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: NeoCaveman

I shouldn’t have to spell this out (but unfortunately I do) but the drop in Republican votes from 2004 to 2012 isn’t a direct measurement of how many true conservatives “stayed home” - that’s a delusional fantasy.

The OVERWHELMING majority of that drop are people that voted for Bush in 2004, but Obama in 2012.

Secondarily, it’s people that voted for Bush in 2004, and died in the last 8 years.

Tertiary, it’s new voters under the age of 26 added since 2004, the vast majority of whom vote for Obama, of course.


66 posted on 12/27/2012 5:46:49 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
Tertiary, it’s new voters under the age of 26 added since 2004, the vast majority of whom vote for Obama, of course.

Well of course, if people only over 30 voted, Romney would have won.

Still, and I'll take it back to Ohio, we ran a Gerry Ford candidate and got Gerry Ford results, in Ohio. He couldn't win it either because downstate wouldn't provide him the margin.

67 posted on 12/27/2012 5:52:48 AM PST by NeoCaveman (SMOD 2012)
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To: neverdem

I am a bible believing conservative Christian who voted for the lesser of two evils. It seems that their are just too many low information voters who are becoming useful idiots of the state as they refuse the right ways of Christ and pursue the vanities of a dying world system run by Satan and all the fools whom follow the monster who hates all mankind equally.
There but for the grace of God in Christ Jesus go all the saved sinner Saints created by God in Christ image.


68 posted on 12/27/2012 6:13:57 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah t of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I hate it when the media takes things out of context, and I hate it even more when we Freepers do the same.

Romney’s son Tag did not say that Romney did not want to be president. He obviously did. He ran two times for the office.

Tag said there was no one who wanted the presidency less than his father did. That harkens to a sense of duty and service. Yes, he desired to be president, but it was not an obsession as it was with Clinton.

The word ‘less’ has a significant syntactical meaning in Tag’s statement. Of all the people running for president, no one wanted it less. It doesn’t mean he didn’t want to be president. It just means his desire was less than the rest thus implying that his dad was running out of duty to save this country economically and not for personal gain or fame and glory.

I do not know the actual extent of Romney’s presidential yearnings, but I do know how to read syntactical sentences.


69 posted on 12/27/2012 6:28:04 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: neverdem

Once the little convention in Tampa ended, we kept hearing how Romney was “really” going to start campaigning in earnest. We are still waiting.


70 posted on 12/27/2012 6:48:02 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: neverdem

Sarah Palin would have defeated this Obama communist monster so easily , if only she had run. what about it Sarah, ready now?


71 posted on 12/27/2012 7:45:58 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: ansel12; Ken H
While you guys are claiming all those huge numbers, just remember that Romney only gained a total of 927 thousand votes, while Obama lost almost 4 million votes from his total.

I didn't. With Obama's de facto war on energy that's not "green energy," I'm trying to get an explanation for so many white voters staying home.

72 posted on 12/27/2012 9:15:25 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Strategerist

That’s very interesting considering the fact that he was hyped as being the candidate who would be able to attract the moderates and independents. Perhaps the RINOs don’t know the moderates and independents as well as they think?

Few were excited about voting for Romney, people stayed home. I guess what Rush Limbaugh said the democrats discovered was true. You have to excite your base to win elections. An excited base draws the stragglers and fence sitters, getting even the non-voters excited enough to come out to vote.

The old saying that voting against something isn’t any where near as powerful as voting for something holds true again. It seems the “Stupid Party” will never learn.


73 posted on 12/27/2012 9:58:50 AM PST by Waryone
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To: neverdem

Romney was more than bland, out of touch, and baffling, on the key issues to the conservative base, he was more left than anyone could have imagined a republican EVER being before 2012.

Of all the times that Massachusetts liberals have tried for the GOP nomination, Romney managed to finally buy his way in, and it proved to be a disaster.


74 posted on 12/27/2012 1:29:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: neverdem
Defeat is what the GOP deserves when it puts a bland, pasty faced, milquetoast that refused to “punch” his opponent in the face with his record, speak out against the libel and lies that were spread against him and could not articulate a conservative vision for himself or the country. Strenuous Conservative is not good enough and oh by the way when the left is going after your wife about her MS treatments you should get pissed of and rip the liberals a new one. You don't avoid talk radio venues as well. You go to black, Korean, Mexican areas and spread conservative. Don't shy away from the truth you were wrong about the 47% it is now 51% but you showed cowardice by backing down. Also stop using advisors that have never won a presidential election e.g. Rove, Schmidt and others.
75 posted on 12/27/2012 1:40:50 PM PST by Warrior Nurse (Soldier, family ,conservative and proud because that is what America needs in order to thrive)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I wouldn’t make such pronouncements. What we need to stop doing is taking cues from a corrupted party establishment and appeasing the media. Just as with the Mohammadans, they are at war with us, and we’d better treat them as such.

As for hanging around leftist kooks, sounds like it’s time to cut your losses and remove yourself from them. I wouldn’t last 5 minutes around such people without obliterating their diseased worldview. I’ve no interest in discussing weather and I know as much about sports as Emperor Zero does about balancing a budget.


76 posted on 12/27/2012 2:43:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: A'elian' nation

Taken in that context, that means that’s an even bigger falsehood. That whole family lies like a rug. Willard has been obsessed with the Presidency since his dad was shot down in 1968. I have no hesistation in saying there is no one in the Republican Party who was more covetous of the Presidency than Willard. No one.


77 posted on 12/27/2012 3:03:22 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Baynative
“Romney never articulated a reason for the independent middle to support him.”

The “independent middle” did support Romney. He lost because white conservatives didn't show up.

78 posted on 12/27/2012 4:04:09 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon
"e lost because white conservatives didn't show up."

If that's the case it is sad, indeed. I am truly disappointed with anyone who would choose to let Obama have his way with the country for four more years rather than support a man of good conscience.

79 posted on 12/27/2012 5:14:12 PM PST by Baynative
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You may be right. I was just interpreting Tag’s statement. I don’t believe he was saying that his dad never wanted to be president. That would be a stupid sour grapes comment to say.

He was making a statement in terms of degree. And even if no one wanted the presidency more than Romney like you say, in terms of degree, Tag was saying no one wanted it less.

I agree with you that Mitt Romney had a great desire to avenge history and his father’s treatment by the press in that run for the presidency.

In the end though The One’s Revenge vote won.


80 posted on 12/28/2012 1:59:53 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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