Posted on 12/15/2012 9:39:53 AM PST by Perdogg
As we reported last night, buried inside the NYT biopic of Newtown shooter Adam Lanza was arguably one of the most important missing pieces in the story, at least so far, which could provide clues into partially explaining yesterday's tragic loss of young life, namely that the 20 year old man suffered from Asperger Syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism (two conditions which are being merged in the upcoming update of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-5) manual of mental disorders), which has been traditionally associated with social communication difficulties, including flat affect, and one which in some clinical studies has been shown to have a causal link to violence. In other words, in addition to the surge in the debate over national gun control and access limitations (ignoring that the perpetrator of the biggest school mass murder in US history - the Bath School disaster - used openly purchased dynamite and no guns, also ignoring that in the US there are roughly 300 million firearms), perhaps there should also be a broad discussion as to the risks of social misadoption of children with autism and other social and behavioral disorders.
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You bet it’s fashion. Heck, they even vote on new maladies:
“After more than a decade of discussion and often heated debate, the Board of Trustees of the American Psychiatric Association voted in Arlington, Va., over the weekend to approve the fifth edition of the group’s “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders” or DSM-5, the official guide to classifying psychiatric illnesses.”
Unfortunately, there are true believers among us into the religion of psychiatry and over-medication.
Try putting your snakes down and doing a little reading. Then we can talk.
Try putting your snakes down and doing a little reading. Then we can talk.
The so called facts in this “news story” do not add up.
The boy’s father worked for GE, in charge of taxes owed, in 2011 GE didn’t pay any. The weapons were reported to belong to his mother. A woman with a military style bushmaster .223 M4 carbine, a police model Glock and Sig Sauer, really? And he had the ID of a brother he had not seen in two years, on him.
All this in a State with strict gun control laws, and right after the re-election of the Man behind fast and furious.
Yep. like the "recovered memory syndrome". It wasn't fashion, no siree!
Ok, if he did have asperger’s, here is my thought on that from someone with professional and personal experience with asperger’s. kids with it feel hurt deeply, but have trouble feeling empathy. How they are raised would be key to whether they would be loving, empathetic adults. With asperger’s they need to LEARN empathy like others learn mathematics.
These kids are often tortured by peers at schools. A divorce or other hard family issues can be devastating to them because they will internalize the hurt and not get over it as easily as others.
Many many many kids have asperger’s today. Parents need to do their best to develop deep attachments in them, and remove them from school settings if things are not going well. All children deserve lose and respect, even those with serious behavior problems.
Asperger’s kids can be very very difficult to raise. They can bring out strong heavy negative feelings in their parents. They can say and do things as children that are just horrible and uncaring, and the parents need to be adult and not respond to what the child is pooping out his mouth, out of normal anger that he doesn’t know how to get rid of, but to love him and explain t him why “we don’t act like that” because he won’t be intuitive like other kids.
Parenting is hard. Parenting an aspie is 10x harder.
Now we see how important it is for parents to have loving support while they raise such a child.
Everyone, if you see someone struggling with a tantruming older child, 6-17, please no longer say to her “that is the worst behaved kid I’ve ever seen!” Or “that boy just needs the belt!” All you do is make the poor mom feel like a failure and she will be harsher on a disabled person, possibly closing off his emotions.
Autism is an epidemic due to something in our environments. Maybe the multitude of infant vaccines. Who knows? And these highly functioning kids need to be loved and attached securely in order to learn empathy. They need to learn to love and be loved.
Help these parents. If you know someone, be a sounding board to them, allow them to offload their negative emotions once their kid is in bed for the night. Take them out and help them vent. Make them feel competent. Let them know how hard it is to parent someone with a behavior disorder.
If this post stops a few people from horribly prejudging parents dealing with an impossibly behaving child, and maybe helps some, I am grateful. We don’t need more monsters growing up.
Dude, a true believer will not enlighten you, you just gotta believe, that’s all! (See above.)
If you are crazy (a wide generic, but fitting term), you should not be left to live in the normal populace left up to your own devices.
How to identify someone who is crazy? Well, as many have pointed out, it needs to come from the observations and willingness of the close friends/family to speak out and alert people, authorities, that can help the ill person.
We also certainly should have institutes and asylums reestablished, rather than checking people out, patting them on the back and sending them back into the populace as ticking time bombs.
I'm not making any connection to Autism here, I'm largely ignorant on the subject, but whatever sub-label you want to give it, I'm of the opinion, crazy is crazy bipolar, schizophrenic, clinically depressed, etc.
Reopening institutes is key, keeping family deeply involved even when such people are committed, and have oversight as to limit the nurse-ratchet types from abusing patients are all steps in the right direction (funny, like a lot of things, we used to do all this before the progressive take-over 50 years ago)
Finally for those that fall through the cracks, as many a freepers have stated, the only defense left is to make sure the innocents have protection of their own, and that the general populace is armed and trained to be armed safely.
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I've seen Asperger Syndrome up close and personal in *two* relatives.Neither of them have ever killed anybody...or even tried to...but,sad to say,they're both very,*very* strange.And spooky for that matter.Just watch Rain Man and remember that both are almost as weird as he was.Brains can malfunction just like hearts,lungs,livers and kidneys.The difference is that when a brain malfunctions the result can be mass murder.
No,I'm not making excuses.I'd want to see him fry just as I hope to see Major Nidal fry.Too bad that CT just repealed their DP...but he might qualify under the Federal DP.
What do you think about an Aspie parent raising an Aspie child? I have family in this situation and wonder what you might have to say about it.
We need to pray for everyone concerned, the shooter, the children, the adults who died trying to protect them and the parents of the dead.
That should be “family members in denial”.
Seeing what I've seen of Asperger's that has the potential for disaster written all over it.What I've seen is normal parents with Asperger kids and that's been pretty damn ugly I can tell ya!
"A woman with a military style bushmaster .223 M4 carbine, a police model Glock and Sig Sauer, really?
My wife owns an AR-15, a J-Frame, S&W .38, and a Sig P938. I don't find that so unusual...
It would seem that a couple of hours at the local shooting range would be an amazing educational experience for many.
We long for an easy solution or answer to this....but there is none. We have over 300,000,000 people in this country. Statistics teach us that they aren’t all going to be the same. Some of them are going to be insane. Why did this guy kill kids? Why do some people cover themselves with their own feces? They are insane. Can we prevent this from happening again? Sure. Build a bulletproof bubble for every school kid. That would prevent them from being shot. But, some high-functioning insane person would figure out how to kill the kids with poison or fire or water. And who would pay for all those bulletproof bubbles? There would be Unintended Consequences.. Every decision we make and every action we take have a cost.
I used to argue for gun control. I don’t anymore. After Waco, I’m way more worried about Democrats than one insane individual. Bill Clinton and the Democrat controlled government planned and executed an operation using American military armored fighting vehicles against American citizens. Innocent children were killed in a government operation that they knew would be risky. We have more to fear from Democrats than from one insane individual.
A schizophrenic should not be allowed to purchase a gun. Period.
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