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UK: Sikh soldier becomes first guardsman to parade outside Buckingham palace in a turban
IBN live ^ | 12 12 12 | AP

Posted on 12/12/2012 7:05:19 AM PST by Cronos

Edited on 12/12/2012 7:08:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

London: Britain's Ministry of Defence says a Sikh soldier has become the first guardsman to parade outside Buckingham Palace while wearing his traditional turban. Fifty family members were on hand on Tuesday as Guardsman Jatinderpal Singh Bhullar as he took part in the changing of the guard at the London home of Queen Elizabeth II.


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To: hoagy62

It’s the same principle.

If you think it’s okay for a turban at Buckingham Palace then it’s okay for a Turban at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.


21 posted on 12/12/2012 7:40:41 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Cronos
Sikhs are not Muslims. They are honorable and courageous.

What's not to like?

22 posted on 12/12/2012 7:42:00 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: RummyChick
If you think it’s okay for a turban at Buckingham Palace then it’s okay for a Turban at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

It's their country, not yours.

I bet you get upset when furriners tell us our business though, don't ya?

23 posted on 12/12/2012 7:43:57 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Queens Foot Guards are professional soldiers.

Do you want to see your fellow US Navy members running around in Turbans while on duty?


24 posted on 12/12/2012 7:44:05 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Former Fetus
Yes, but he’s putting his religion/customs ahead of duty.

Don't know about you, but putting my religion and customs first IS my duty.

25 posted on 12/12/2012 7:46:17 AM PST by Romulus
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To: RummyChick

If they were Gurkas/Sikhs it wouldn’t bother me ONE BIT!


26 posted on 12/12/2012 7:46:56 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are completely missing the point.

If the rationale here is that Shikh’s are good guys so let them wear turbans in the UK - then you have to be okay with letting them wear their Turbans in the US while on duty. As well as other non-uniform religious items. Like Burkas. Islamic Head Wraps, etc.


27 posted on 12/12/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

yes I’d be fine with it, at the Tomb or wherever.


28 posted on 12/12/2012 7:49:12 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: US Navy Vet

So your fellow Navy member can wear a Turban as long as he is a Sikh - so then can your fellow Islamic Navy Member wear the Hajib while on duty?


29 posted on 12/12/2012 7:51:15 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

OK Just how many DD-214s do YOU have?


30 posted on 12/12/2012 7:54:17 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: RummyChick

Looks Canadian to me, most of the same medals I have.

That said, Sikhs are a far cry from the bad guys and have proved themselves over and over to be valiant and determined soldiers, I don’t have any problem with his donning his turban in uniform.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 7:54:21 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: RummyChick
You are completely missing the point. If the rationale here is that Shikh’s are good guys so let them wear turbans in the UK - then you have to be okay with letting them wear their Turbans in the US while on duty. As well as other non-uniform religious items. Like Burkas. Islamic Head Wraps, etc.

In order to have a rationale, you have to be rational.

That leaves you out.

32 posted on 12/12/2012 7:55:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Cronos

I have met many Sihks - all have been nice people.

That uniform looks way cool

Is it that same as every other uniform except for the hat?

(yeah I know it is not called a hat)


33 posted on 12/12/2012 7:56:48 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Lazamataz

Concerning the turban...

Over the ears, calm your fears, ears showing, danger growing...


34 posted on 12/12/2012 7:56:52 AM PST by GraceG
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To: RitchieAprile

So you would be okay with a Muslim soldier wearing a taqiyah while guarding the Tomb of The Unknown soldier???

And when in Marine Dress Blues he is allowed to wear a taqiyah and not the white barracks cover?


35 posted on 12/12/2012 7:57:56 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Lazamataz
Winston Churchill on Sihks and tubins:

"...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud."

36 posted on 12/12/2012 7:58:28 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

tubins? I shock myself. “Turbans”


37 posted on 12/12/2012 7:59:46 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: US Navy Vet

Not relevant.

There is a uniform code. There is regulated headgear.

Do you want your fellow Navy Member wearing a Hajib when you are standing at attention.


38 posted on 12/12/2012 8:00:10 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Bulwyf; RummyChick

First, whatever the Brits decide as the ceremonial uniform for what is essentially a ceremonial mission is fine with me. It’s their country.

Second, The British have a very long tradition of different uniforms for different military units, particularly in their army (not so much for the RN or RAF). It goes back to their Imperial days. This is a recognition of that tradition. We don’t have that tradition here; you have the combat uniform, the duty uniform and the dress uniform. My recollection of the uniform for the Guards at the Tomb of the Unknowns is that it is the standard US Army dress uniform. I could be wrong, but it appears that way to me.

Third, I think this guy’s relatives and ancestors purchased his ability to wear the turban while on guard with their blood they shed for the Crown. And as long as he’s willing to do the same, I don’t have a problem.


39 posted on 12/12/2012 8:01:06 AM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: RummyChick

sure. if they took the oath and serve, and the Corp approves
the garb.

like it or not, they are part of us. sikhs and muslims are
here, they serve, and they are not going away.


40 posted on 12/12/2012 8:01:18 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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