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Supreme Court will take up gay marriage cases (In Late March)
Fox News ^ | 12/07/2012 | Shannon Bream and AP

Posted on 12/07/2012 12:34:14 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan

Edited on 01/07/2013 10:04:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Supreme Court will take up California's ban on same-sex marriage, a case that could give the justices the chance to rule on whether gay Americans have the same constitutional right to marry as heterosexuals.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; notbreakingnews; scotus; ssm; statesrights; vanity
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To: BuckeyeTexan

(gulp)
I really hate to see anything of importance going to the Supreme Court these days now that the court has three distinct factions: 4 liberals, 4 conservatives, and 1 moron.


21 posted on 12/07/2012 1:04:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Bad news as the SCOTUS may rule against Prop 8 and strike down all such laws and constitutional amendments in the states.


22 posted on 12/07/2012 1:05:23 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Sacajaweau
IIRC, 7 of the Justices are Catholic.

Six Catholic, three Jewish (Kagan, Ginsburg, Breyer) (although Breyer's daughter is an Episcopal priest).

23 posted on 12/07/2012 1:06:05 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Sacajaweau
IIRC, 7 of the Justices are Catholic.

Six Catholic, three Jewish (Kagan, Ginsburg, Breyer) (although Breyer's daughter is an Episcopal priest).

24 posted on 12/07/2012 1:06:08 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

By the way, I wonder if Kagan and Roberts will recuse themselves.


25 posted on 12/07/2012 1:07:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lurking Libertarian
...on the ground that the federal government must recognize as legally married any couple who are legally married under the laws of their home state

But that still wouldn't force other states to recognize faggot "marriages" performed in faggot states.

26 posted on 12/07/2012 1:11:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Prediction: Justice Roberts will vote with the seat of his pants.


27 posted on 12/07/2012 1:12:54 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Thank you most wonderful Sidebar! :)


28 posted on 12/07/2012 1:14:46 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: RetiredArmy

Don’t discount the possibility of Roberts and Kennedy joining with the Liberals on this case.

They should have simply let the lower court’s ruling on Prop 8 stand and let California be California.


29 posted on 12/07/2012 1:15:12 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: longfellowsmuse

The financial aspect is a large part of it.

But another large part of it is the further destruction of traditional American and Judeo-Christian morality.

The statists hate religion and especially Christianity.

In this, many of the homosexuals are the pawns of the hardcore statists that are using the homosexual ‘cause’ to further the destruction of America. Some are aware, some are not.

Regardless, the issue is another bullet in the chest of America.

If this passes, polygamists will have a case. So will males who want to marry male cousins and brothers, and females who want to female cousins and sisters.

Remember that their argument is flawed. Before same-sex marriage, we ALL lived with the same restrictions when it came to marriage. Heterosexuals could only marry people of the opposite sex and who were legally able and consented.

Homosexuals have not been barred from marriage and they were under the same ‘rights’ and ‘restrictions’ as everyone else.

Now they are asking for EXTRA rights. In addition to being able to marry members of the opposite sex, they want to be able to marry people of the same sex.

They claim this will not cause a slippery slope.

But if there are no restrictions on marriage, then there are NO restrictions on marriage.

The homosexuals want the finances, yes, but they approach homosexual ‘rights’ the same way Obammie the Commie approaches the economy: they both want to punish the living hell out of their opponents. Winning is not enough. They want to bash our heads into the sidewalk like the drug-dealing gang-baning punk Trayvon did to Zimmerman.

And they want US to apologize to THEM for ever having opposed them.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 1:15:32 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I see nothing in the previous jurisprudence that shows this will be anything other than a 5-4 vote overturning the lower courts and upholding the laws. Roberts/Scalia/Thomas/Kennedy/Alito will stick together on this one. The four others will too but will be in the minority — for now.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 1:18:07 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: C19fan

Correct, Kennedy will vote with the three hags and the wuss Souter.


32 posted on 12/07/2012 1:19:29 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Welcome ;-)


33 posted on 12/07/2012 1:23:43 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Lancey Howard
But that still wouldn't force other states to recognize faggot "marriages" performed in faggot states.

No, but we will then see later cases arguing that the Constitution's Full Faith and Credit Clause requires each state to recognize marriages performed in another state.

I don't practice family law, and I haven't researched this, but I am sure there is caselaw from back in the day when interracial marriages were illegal in some states and legal in others. I do remember learning in law school a legal maxim, "A marriage valid where celebrated is valid everywhere."

34 posted on 12/07/2012 1:24:00 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Sidebar Moderator; I Am Not A Mod; BuckeyeTexan

Wait, I thought you and I Am Not A Mod were being held in confinement without visitors.

Is this some sort of trick?


35 posted on 12/07/2012 1:29:18 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
No, but we will then see later cases arguing that the Constitution's Full Faith and Credit Clause requires each state to recognize marriages performed in another state. I don't practice family law, and I haven't researched this, but I am sure there is caselaw from back in the day when interracial marriages were illegal in some states and legal in others. I do remember learning in law school a legal maxim, "A marriage valid where celebrated is valid everywhere." I'm surprised that issue hasn't already come up in front of the SCOTUS, being as quite a few states have had same-sex marriage for awhile now. For instance, let's say Judy and Susie get married next week up in Seattle, and then they move to Missouri. Someone in MO says, "We don't recognize you as legally married", and J & S have their Washington State Marriage Certificate. J & S say, "Full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution." Of course, inevitably, it will come up, most likely in the next five years at the latest.
36 posted on 12/07/2012 1:30:57 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

There are many arguments that can be made about this issue, but for me the biggest one is that it impinges upon the First Amendment rights of free exercise of religion. If gay marriage is found constitutional that how can any pastor of any church refuse to marry gays or hold gay marriages in their churches? The same would be true of any religious person who has a bakery or a photography business, etc. They will be accused of discrimination and this will open the door to all kinds of lawsuits. The right to object to being forced to do something based on the exercise of individual conscience will be gone. And even if it survives, the amount of money it will take these people to defend themselves will put them out of business. Can you imagine how the Moslems will react to this kind of thing?


37 posted on 12/07/2012 1:33:28 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Darksheare
We were released in the spirit of the Christmas er, the holiday season ;-)
38 posted on 12/07/2012 1:34:55 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator; I Am Not A Mod

LOL, understood!
In case I don’t “see” either of you between now and then, Merry Christmas!


39 posted on 12/07/2012 1:39:53 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I think you’ve got it right. Your analysis was my first impression when I heard the news.

If it does result in states’ rights being upheld, what then happens with Article 4, Section 1- Full Faith & Credit?

Suppose that gay marriage is legal in MA but not in TX and that a company is incorporated in TX and doing business in both states. Do legally married gay couples receive benefits in MA but not in TX?

Louisiana does not allow gay couples to adopt. Yet a couple of years ago, the courts forced LA to amend the birth parents’ names on its vital record to reflect the legal adoption that took place in NY. (IMHO, NY should have had to issue a birth certificate. LA should not have to amend its vital records to reflect an adoption that is illegal in LA.) How do you see that situation playing out under the predicted ruling?


40 posted on 12/07/2012 1:40:28 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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