Posted on 12/05/2012 10:02:27 AM PST by pabianice
Obama: We Are Not Going To Negotiate With The Debt Ceiling
David Taintor 11:19 AM EST, Wednesday December 5, 2012
President Obama on Wednesday described Republicans who are considering holding the debt ceiling vote hostage in additional negotiations after the so-called fiscal cliff in January as partaking in a "bad strategy for America."
"I will not play that game," Obama told business leaders at a quarterly meeting of the Business Roundtable in Washington. "We are not going to play that game next year. We've got to break that habit before it starts."
We Are Not Going To Negotiate With The Debt Ceiling
In other words:
Go screw yourself, I ain’t making s budget. I’m spending as much as I possible can.
Obamugabe: Dictator for Life.
Then don’t call it vacation.
In the first place, the dims can’t take vacation until they vote for obumber’s spending/tax program.
They could do that in one day, but I doubt it because it first has to be written up as a bill.
But suppose they do.
Don’t call it vacation. Just have all conservatives who have worries about re-election get the flu. Call in sick.
Then the ones who remain can be out in the hall drinking coffee or going to the bathroom when the vote is called.
Or they can all stay there and vote present. That would keep the dims from sneaking through other legislation that they might otherwise attempt to do.
The point is that the conservatives must let obumbler have his way on the tax thing, like it or not, and the constituents have to understand that it is not reneging on a campaign promise...it is a tactical retreat.
Sucker punch, bunt....whatever, there is a time when hitting a home run is not in the cards and you have to resort to other tactics.
There have been a lot of "final nails" in the coffin of America. This would truly be the last nail. With Pelosi back at the helm as SOTH, she & Reid will find a way to repeal the 22nd Amendment. Perhaps they'll just "deem" it repealed without a vote!
No matter how much he wats to control the debt ceiling he’s sh*t out of luck on that deal,it’s congress that hold the keys to that bus.
The sh*t for brains is seeing to many unicorns.
Duhhh!
This is why Bohner’s negotiating makes no sense(he is probably just playing to voters sympathy for when the cliff hits but it wont work)
Obama promised those tax increases as a major campaign promises and he won and the polls overwhelmingly show that voters will blame Republicans for the off the cliff(I am sick of that nick-name) , and polls are showing little disapproval of the tax increases O promises, so O hase absolutely no reason to give on anything, and all the reason to hold out till Rs cave. So this negotiation is all a waste of time and attention
Once again
stop negotiating, and no passing tax increase bills in house
Pass the partial extension <$250K and send to Senate
Get on TV and let voters know you (House Rs) saved voters from a tax increases
Declare on TV Obama crisis over
Beg Obama (show for voters) ON TV to NOT raise taxes on job creators, tell voters you did everything you could do to stop it and why its bad. Voters give Obama credit for raising them even though they are automatic, he cant get out of that.
Let everything else go over the cliff. no restored spending, no stimulus, no nothing
You made your bed Dems. Blame every problem for the next 4 years on those Obama tax increases
Yep, that’s what the little confab with the MSNBC talking heads was about. Lining up the media to blast the GOP for this and turn the House.
Another crisis that won’t go to waste.
We have to fight and then we will win the House and Senate in 2014. The huge fallout from continued Obamunism and Obamacare will lead to Tea Party II!
Fight, fight, fight! With all our strength and might!
he’s not negotiating ANYTHING!
He just needs a simpe eff-u.
Don’t offer anything, don’t authorize an increase, and let him scream.
We’ll be blamed anyway, so why bother?
Oh, you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
Im telling you why.
The Federal Partys’ are coming to town.
They sees you when youre building.
They wants what you all make.
that being rich is a mistake.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
Im telling you why.
Every Party Bureucrat is coming to town.
They’ll tell you to be thankful.
to bow down and give thanks.
or send you to a Arbeitsziehungslager camp.
to get your thinking straight.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
telling you why.
Both Federal Work Camp Partys’ are coming to town.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
Im telling you why.
The Federal Government coooming tooo tooown in every way!
Oops! Someone perverted my post!
Oh, you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coming to town.
He sees you when you’re building.
he wants what you all make.
he’ll tell the 47 per cent.
that being rich is a mistake.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coming to town.
he’ll tell you to be thankful.
to bow down and give thanks.
or he’ll send you to a FEMA camp.
to get your thinking “straight”.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coming to town.
he’ll give you a free cell phone.
say Obamacare is great.
he’ll tell you being a success.
is something you should hate.
oh you better not work.
you better not try.
you better not earn.
I’m telling you why.
Obama Claus is coooming tooo tooown!
” Let everything else go over the cliff. no restored spending, no stimulus, no nothing
You made your bed Dems. Blame every problem for the next 4 years on those Obama tax increases “
Bingo
If you raise the “debt ceiling” every time you hit the debt ceiling, it isn’t really a “debt ceiling”.
And the “debt ceiling” isn’t a physical thing. It is a LAW duly passed by congress, and signed into law by a lawful president, which is based on the constitutional principle that the congress is the body which can borrow money against the credit of the country.
So we aren’t playing a “debt limit” game, we are following the law, which sets the debt ceiling, which is supposed to control how much money we can borrow, and is used by our creditors to decide whether we are a good credit risk.
When we last raised the limit, we lost our AAA rating, because we are a riskier investment. If we raise it again, we’ll lose more rating, unless we put into law a plan to pay back the debt, by controlling our spending.
In only one sense is the debt limit a game — the fact that congress, both republican and democrat, seem to ignore the debt limit when they are putting budgets together, because they don’t propose budgets that keep the nation under the debt ceiling.
I think what they SHOULD do is pass a debt limit that changes based on whatever criteria defines a reasonable debt, like a percentage of GDP, or whatever that measure is. But beyond that, a real change in the debt should require a vote to authorize that debt.
And the House should not play a game either. They should pass a debt ceiling increase now, with the appropriate changes in spending to show they are serious.
The game is all this stupid negotiation stuff. Stop negotiating, and start passing bills. There is a process. House passes bill, senate passes bill, house and senate get together to reconcile bills, then house and senate approve reconciliation, and the president signs or vetoes.
It is stupid to try to circumvent that process by advance negotiations.
Perhaps you don't know this - part of the bill Hussein wants passed, does away with a spending cap so there would be no more voting to raise it - Hussein can spend whatever he wants if the bill passes with that part still in it. He'll likely use executive orders to spend the money and bypass the House and Senate and with no spending caps, he's on his way.
how about breaking the democrat’s bad habits of not putting forth budgets each year for the last 4 years? you know not upholding their constitutonal duties?
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