Posted on 12/05/2012 9:09:59 AM PST by jazusamo
Whether you like it or not, you are an investor in the electric vehicle (EV) battery of tomorrow.
Late last week, the Department of Energy announced plans to spend $120 million to establish a major battery research center at the Argonne National Lab outside of Chicago. The stated goal: to create a new Manhattan Project that will develop an EV battery in the next five years that lasts five times as long and costs one-fifth as much as current EV batteries.
And they say its all in the interest of national security.
The Joint Center for Energy Storage Research (JCESR) will become a think tank for multiple government entities like the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, and the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Washington, in addition to private companies like Dow Chemical and Johnson Controls. Even General Motors is an affiliate and likely future licensee of the technology.
The taxpayer is an investor, so what can we do that pays the investor back? The answer is security to do our best to use energy inside the boundaries on our soil, says Jeff Chamberlain, the deputy for development and demonstration at JCESR. Chamberlain says the U.S. imports a billion gallons of oil per day. But if even 5 percent of drivers switched to EVs, that could mean $100 billion in battery purchases that would be powered largely by domestically produced energy.
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This is the definition of a money hole, says Rob Enderle, an analyst who has studied battery innovations. They aren't going to the Moon, they are just making something that exists better and setting goals that can't be achieved in a reasonable time.
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Repeal the laws of physics. Who believed G-d set those up anyway?
Workers of the World, Unite! Defeat the Capitalist, Imperialist and Racist Laws of Thermodynamics!
If any intelligent company thought this was possible, they would have done it already.
$120M is nothing compared to the possible payback if it could work.
The fact that no company has tried effectively proves that it can’t be done for the price.
” Late last week,the Department of Energy announced plans to spend $120 million to establish a major battery research center at the Argonne National Lab outside of Chicago. The stated goal: to create a new Manhattan Project that will develop an EV battery in the next five years that lasts five times as long and costs one-fifth as much as current EV batteries.”
No batteries will be produced and the 120 million dollars will vanish into the pockets of obamas friends.
Ping, for your lists.
” Late last week,the Department of Energy announced plans to spend $120 million to establish a major battery research center at the Argonne National Lab outside of Chicago. The stated goal: to create a new Manhattan Project that will develop an EV battery in the next five years that lasts five times as long and costs one-fifth as much as current EV batteries.”
No batteries will be produced and the 120 million dollars will vanish into the pockets of obamas friends.
” Late last week,the Department of Energy announced plans to spend $120 million to establish a major battery research center at the Argonne National Lab outside of Chicago. The stated goal: to create a new Manhattan Project that will develop an EV battery in the next five years that lasts five times as long and costs one-fifth as much as current EV batteries.”
No batteries will be produced and the 120 million dollars will vanish into the pockets of obamas friends.
LOL!
I remember those Desoto’s when I was young, they were real boats.
You’re dead on the mark.
Even if they manage to build a better battery (which I doubt), it won’t take more than a nanosecond to transfer the tech to the People’s Liberation Army. Heck, I’m sure the research will be transferred as they go, since half the people they hire for the project will likely be Chinese nationals.
I’d like to learn about ways that might lead to more efficient yet safe batteries. What chemistry still has potential?
A great thing about gasoline is that it has very high energy per pound than batteries but by itself it is not dangerous — that is, it needs oxygen to release its energy.
Batteries on the other hand need nothing but a short circuit to release their energy in a rapid, dangerous manner. Today’s batteries have sufficiently low storage capacity that shorting one out isn’t like setting off a bomb. However, a battery with the energy density of gasoline would be like an undetonated bomb.
A friend of my parents was once in a meeting that included politicians to discuss ways of improving the effencicy of jet engines. A major limitation, it was said, was that the the best known material for turbine blades, inconel, had been pushed to its temperature limit. A politician suggesting making a law to raise the inconel melting point.
The list, Ping
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The list, Ping
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Whenever I see the cost of an electric car, I add the taxpayer subsidies, which we are all paying.
If the government is involved; I don’t want one.
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