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1 posted on 12/03/2012 11:52:05 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The will of the people nor the rulings of prior courts
have any effect on tyrants. Those in charge will no longer risk losing their positions of power by offending
the electorate....they will impose their disarmament via
beaurocratic regulation and executive order. The right to keep and bear will be acknowledged by our lords and masters
while they continue to nickle and dime it to death.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 12:00:23 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: neverdem

It does seem that the Second Amendment is being embraced more and more these days by both Republicans and Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives, and, perhaps most importantly, by middle-of-the-road folks of all persuasions.

This is something long-time shooting enthusiasts would never have thought to see even fifteen or twenty years ago.

It may be the one thing for which we can thank Obama, that he has done more to promote firearms ownership - albeit it unintentionally - than any president in the entire history of the nation, including Theodore Roosevelt.

Strange, but...


3 posted on 12/04/2012 12:19:32 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: neverdem

Does anyone really believe that if an Obama/Marxist-dominated court could issue some fatwa about no Americans being allowed to own guns, anyone would comply with that edict? How the heck do they think they’d enforce it? Do they know how many Americans, of all political affiliations (here in Wisconsin, Dems have tons of guns) own firearms. And not just hunting rifles and shotguns. It would be like prohibition i.e. unenforceable. Just let them try. I’m not turning mine in. It would be another civil war.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 2:54:31 AM PST by driftless2
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To: neverdem
An interesting mockumentary film about reality shows, the 1A and Russian roulette: Live!
8 posted on 12/04/2012 3:03:29 AM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: neverdem

Whistling past the graveyard, here.

With Barry II, we are going to have to fight this one out. It will not be pretty—thanks, RINOs.


9 posted on 12/04/2012 3:43:20 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: neverdem

Absurd and naive statement by the author. Libery is and always will be fleeting. In 1975 you’d be branded a nut if you wrote this article. Back then “everybody knew” guns were the problem. Public opinion is like a fire and just as dangerous. It’s why we have a Constitution, originally written to limit the franchise and the influence (menace) of the public.

What we really need is for the Constitution and its founding principles to be taught over and over again in every grade in school. How many people understand the harm the 17th Amendment causes to our liberty or why the Electoral College preserves liberty or why expanding the franchise undermines freedom? These kinds of questions have answers that are longer than a bumper sticker and that are sometimes counter-intuitive. Skipping over them for a couple of generations got us to electing a Cook County Democrat as President. Now, people are surprised that we’re getting Cook County Democratic politics, policies and an economy that’s the the envy of nowhere (unless you’re a crony capitalist or a political insider looting the public treasury).

What we really need is a Commerce Clause Defense Fund, or a Federalism Education Fund or a Necessary and Proper Clause Litigation Fund. By and large the public is whimsical, willfully ignorant and opinionated. They suffer from the quite normal and natural diseases of jealosy and pain avoidance. They’re fickle and will often support those who wish to enslave them and destroy their liberties.

The author needs to read more history if he thinks we could stand a Kagan-lead court majority. He’s deluded.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 4:21:15 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem
From your cited and quoted source article, the graf that links "reality TV" to the newer public support for the 2nd Amendment (the "money quote"):

To my surprise the most powerful guardians of the Second Amendment have come not from law schools but from cable television network programming meetings. I believe that reality television shows based on firearms have exposed millions of Americans to the safe use of firearms for sports, for target shooting and simply for fun. By making the widespread ownership and use of firearms acceptable and normal to millions of people who have never touched a gun, these shows have unwittingly saved the Second Amendment.

(Author then cites four examples from cable TV programming sources.)

This was all fresh information to me. I'd never seen anything about this until now.

11 posted on 12/04/2012 5:05:01 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

Here’s an excerpt that relates to the headline:

To my surprise the most powerful guardians of the Second Amendment have come not from law schools but from cable television network programming meetings. I believe that reality television shows based on firearms have exposed millions of Americans to the safe use of firearms for sports, for target shooting and simply for fun. By making the widespread ownership and use of firearms acceptable and normal to millions of people who have never touched a gun, these shows have unwittingly saved the Second Amendment.

In Top Shot, a reality TV show on the History Channel, male and female shooting enthusiasts from military, police and civilian backgrounds compete in marksmanship tests using a variety of weapons to see who will be named the “Top Shot.” This show allows decorated military veterans, public servants like policemen and firemen and educated and intelligent civilian hobbyists to demonstrate their skill in the shooting sports and their respect for, and love of, firearms.

Sons of Guns is a reality TV show on the Discovery Channel about a custom gunsmith business in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The show allows the obvious fascination with, and love of, firearms of the gunsmiths on the show to shine through. The show also delves into the individual identities and personalities of the members of the cast and their personal relationships, and shows them as real, normal, emotionally happy human beings who simply enjoy building, working with and shooting firearms of all kinds. Finally, Sons of Guns frequently features war heroes, professional athletes and celebrities who passionately like, own and shoot guns. In our star-obsessed world anything a celebrity does which is not illegal makes the activity more attractive and acceptable.

American Guns is a reality TV show on the Discovery Channel about a family gunsmith business in Denver, Colorado. The cast, including the father who owns the shop, and his wife and daughter who work there, allows viewers to associate firearms with a successful business and a happy family life, and shows how target shooting can be a safe, fun and wholesome family activity enjoyed equally by different generations.

Family Guns is a reality TV show on National Geographic about a father and son who buy, sell and restore rare firearms. The show reflects the ordinary human drama inherent in any parent/child relationship and in any family business relationship.

Each of these shows allows people from all walks of life, and especially people in urban areas who have never even seen or touched a real firearm, and who know about firearms only what they see in action movies and in news stories of homicidal maniacs with “assault rifles,” to see smart, educated, classy men, women and youngsters using firearms completely safely and purely for sports, fun, and entertainment. These television shows unintentionally have the effect of introducing people to the safe and fun use of firearms. Instead of associating guns solely with horrible crimes committed by kooks, these shows prove to people that it is acceptable to own firearms, and that many normal, intelligent, educated people enjoy the shooting sports. These television shows have introduced the acceptability of firearms ownership and use into peoples’ minds, and into the fabric of our culture, in ways that even successful results from my litigation trust never would have achieved.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 5:45:35 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: neverdem

I also think zombie entertainment has really kicked up the interest, too.... as silly as that sounds.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 5:49:47 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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He missed the oldest reality show that’s done the most to demystify guns to the general public: Myth Busters. They test lots and lots of gun myths, debunking almost all of them. And in the process, by taking a very business like attitude, they show guns to be tools, potentially dangerous tools true, but also fun tools, and most importantly containing no mystical powers.

And sadly Top Shot has been canceled. At least the last I heard. Unfortunate, with 4 seasons under their belt they were perfectly set for a tournament of champions. At least they did Atlatls in their last season, I really wanted to see atlatls in action.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 8:52:33 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: neverdem
While I agree with the TITLE of this thread; I do not feel it is the FOLLOWING that should get the credit:

To my surprise the most powerful guardians of the Second Amendment have come not from law schools but from cable television network programming meetings. I believe that reality television shows based on firearms have exposed millions of Americans to the safe use of firearms for sports, for target shooting and simply for fun. By making the widespread ownership and use of firearms acceptable and normal to millions of people who have never touched a gun, these shows have unwittingly saved the Second Amendment.

It is the Doomsday PREPPERS that has finally awakened the masses to what is GOING to happen!!!

NO one is going to save you butts from the future marauding zombies but yourself; and you'd BETTER have some way to do it!

20 posted on 12/04/2012 3:10:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: neverdem

My tagline.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 5:25:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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