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Club for Growth may kill what it professes to love.
1 posted on 12/03/2012 4:56:35 AM PST by teflon9
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To: teflon9

There’s going to BE a next election?


2 posted on 12/03/2012 4:58:17 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: teflon9

Isn’t that what The New Republic wants the GOP to do? I haven’t looked at that publication in years but it’s always been a liberal one according to my memory.


4 posted on 12/03/2012 5:04:00 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: teflon9

IMO this author has one “H” of a cleanup behind the ears situation if he ever pulls his head out of his rectum.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 5:04:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: teflon9

Those of us who consider ourselves Tea Partiers need to acknowledge that the movement has resulted in some studs-Rubio, Paul, Toomey eg-as well as some duds-O’Donnell, Angle eg.

I prefer that the risk of this continue; I’d rather lose a few than maintain the GOP establishment status quo.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 5:10:29 AM PST by almcbean
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To: teflon9

Republicans are constantly playing second fiddle to Democrats who continually outsmart them. The Republicans focus more on not upsetting Democrats and planning their losing defensive strategy rather than a winning offensive strategy.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 5:13:14 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: teflon9

A dar left wing rag like the new republic is so concerned about the GOP !!
Sure!!

Why do Obama newsletters like this crap alway give us advice ???
To hang ourselves with !


9 posted on 12/03/2012 5:21:04 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: teflon9

So what? the Republicans have controlled the House for two years. All spending bills originate in the House. There is still a $trillion deficit. The Democrats could conceivably top that, maybe.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 5:27:45 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: teflon9

“West Virginia’s white working class voters, ... still see the Democrats as the party of the New Deal safety net and spending on roads and bridges and schools.”

The commie twit doesn’t mention that conservatives and republicans now control 30 states, which is up from 25 in 2010. Rats are getting thrown out of state legislatures by the hundreds. In some states. there’s not a single rat who holds a state-wide political office.

If conservatives are wondering where the political power lies, it’s in the states. Use it.


11 posted on 12/03/2012 5:31:21 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: teflon9

What next election? Its all over except for the shooting.


12 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:12 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: teflon9

The Club for Growth has given us the only semblance of conservatism is Washington. The Senate three years ago had maybe had a single person I would save from an oncoming bus...including our side of the aisle. Today, we have DeMint, Rubio, Johnson, Toomey, Lee, Rand Paul, Portman, Aloyette, Fischer, and Cruz.

We now have a base of principled people who not only vote better, but can get on tv instead of McCain, Graham, Grassley, and the old guard. Same in the statehouses.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 5:55:44 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: teflon9

It is time for a complete NEW party. . . . . . . . . .


14 posted on 12/03/2012 5:58:06 AM PST by DeaconRed (Is it time to give up? Hell NO It is time to fight the commie bastards for our beautiful country.)
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To: teflon9
It really doesn't matter anymore. President Cloward-Piven's singular goal of overwhelming the system is withing sight.

Once it happens, the next goal of killing 10% of the US population to show us who's boss comes on deck.

15 posted on 12/03/2012 5:58:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: teflon9; bert; fieldmarshaldj; RobbyS; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”But the Club and its network blame the Republicans’ and Romney’s defeat on their not being conservative enough. “The first lesson” of Romney’s defeat, Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation wrote, “is no more moderate Republican candidates.” ... Ignoring Mourdock’s defeat in Indiana, [Rep. Chris] Chocola cites ...victories of ...Cruz in Texas and ...Flake in Arizona as evidence that when Republicans take Club positions rather than “electable” moderates, [they'll] win.
If [they're] active for 2014 and 2016 ... [they'll] almost certainly make it more difficult for the Republicans to retake the Senate and [White house]. The Club and Tea Party groups successfully backed ... Sharron Angle in the 2010 Republican Senate primary against an “establishment” conservative who might have beaten ...Reid. This year, they [bet] on Mourdock in Indiana. And if the Club's opposition to Capito is any indication,[they'll] do similar damage to the Republican cause in 2014. “

This type of civil war will certainly help Dems.
We have to side with either Romney or Angle? that is the debate?? If so we are screwed.

I like Stephen Moore, but:

If Club for Growth is saying that House Republicans should not pass a bill raising taxes, then I agree 100%. Doing (giving in on that) that will only destroy the R party and help Obama.

BUT If Club for Growth is saying that House Republicans should refuse to extend ANY tax cuts unless O+Reid cave and affirmatively take action to extend them for millionaires and billionaires (you know the Dem talking points)too then that is party suicide, as it was a year ago with FICA.

Lets try some sanity here. Romney ran almost his whole campaign on those tax cuts so the Romney-versus Angle analogy above makes little sense.

19 posted on 12/03/2012 6:04:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems want to win.The GOP wants to whine. Why dont they fight to win like Dems do?)
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To: teflon9
But the Club and its network blame the Republicans’ and Romney’s defeat on their not being conservative enough.

Looks like they are on a RINO hunt. This is bad thing?

20 posted on 12/03/2012 6:04:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: teflon9

Seeing how it’s all over the media that it’s going to be the Republicans fault if we go over the cliff, I say give the POS what he wants and make him own the consequences. When things start getting so bad that he can’t cover it any more, people will start getting angry and there will be no one to blame but obama. He won. Give him a chance to implement more failed policies so we can throw it in their faces when it all comes crashing down.


22 posted on 12/03/2012 6:11:59 AM PST by jersey117
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To: teflon9

How does anyone figure that Boehner is conservative?


23 posted on 12/03/2012 6:13:42 AM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: teflon9
The Republican Party will not win another national election. With touch screen voting machines spreading an election is simply a ratification of what the supervisors of the machines have determined.

If the elections were honest even then it is not likely that republicans can win. Bush 2 was the last Republican who could win a national election. He was a Real Republican like all the other bobdoles but showed an actual desire to be elected, unlike the others. The last real determined Conservative candidate was Reagan. No Republican to date is in line to accede to the bobdole nomination and no Conservative is even remotely in contention. In the Republican Party a candidate has to be in line for 2-3 election cycles to get the nomination. Without anyone in the pipeline the nomination will go to a second tier bobdole who will then lose, probably pretty badly. Conservatives call the bobdoles and the whole power structure of the Republican Party RINOs but it is the Conservatives who are not truly Republicans. Reagan was a Conservative. Eisenhower was a conservative, more or less. Before Ike there was Coolidge and there was Harding and Taft. All the rest and all the failed candidates save Goldwater, were Republicans. That is the Republican Party.

The GOP is increasingly a PROGRESSIVE party, not a conservative party. It is the American Fabian Society to the Democrats' Leninists. That will not likely change. Conservatives are by their nature mostly averse to running for office. People who strive for political office are already oriented toward Government as the mechanism for getting things done and solving problems.

27 posted on 12/03/2012 7:01:41 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: teflon9

RINO File.


30 posted on 12/03/2012 7:19:52 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: teflon9

The next election doesn’t matter. It will be like deciding who will be the next captain of the Titanic, or the next coach at Auburn.


36 posted on 12/03/2012 5:41:13 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: teflon9

I think we’re pretty much done with elections at this point.

On Rush’s show this afternoon he’s going on and on about how even “Obama Voters” don’t want ObamaCare...don’t want more taxes..don’t want the liberal agenda. He’s got 3-4 polls -even from illinois...supporting this. What he hasn’t yet done is drawn the obvious conclusion. When he does..he’ll be off the air in a New York Minute.

Fact is...IMHO this election was goung to be 60/40 R/D or 55/45R/D......and was stolen by the bankers....

We the People no longer own the electoral process.

Even Obama looked suprised...and certainly Mitt was.


39 posted on 12/04/2012 12:07:18 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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