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Timothy Geithner: End debt ceiling for good? (Obama wants a No Limit Credit Card)
politico ^ | 11/30/2012 | By JOSEPH J. SCHATZ

Posted on 11/30/2012 3:28:06 AM PST by tobyhill

Nobody on Capitol Hill likes raising the debt ceiling.

But now Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner wants to end the practice.

Forever.

GOP aides say that in talks with congressional leaders on Capitol Hill on Thursday, Geithner proposed a “permanent” increase in the debt ceiling — meaning changing the law so that Congress no longer has to approve an increase in the statutory borrowing cap, which has been in place since 1917.

He hinted at it in an interview with Bloomberg News a few weeks ago. But the fact that Geithner is proposing giving the administration such authority behind the scenes adds a new dimension to the idea.

The need for a separate vote on spending, and then the borrowing cap, is somewhat unique to the United States. “The United States is unusual among the countries we reviewed in using the authorization of additional borrowing authority as an occasion to draw attention to past fiscal policy decision,” the Government Accountability Office noted in a 2011 report.

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To: 17th Miss Regt

Dammit.
You beat me by five minutes.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 5:39:31 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: tobyhill

F**K YOU TED!


22 posted on 11/30/2012 5:46:54 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: tobyhill

Sheriff of Nottingham Timmy Gee has never understood Checks and Balances.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 5:47:27 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: cotton1706
This is an attempt to take the power of the purse away from the House of Representatives.

I think you are exactly right.

24 posted on 11/30/2012 5:48:35 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: tobyhill

If the ceiling is removed to allow infinite spending, the government will find a way to reach infinity...


25 posted on 11/30/2012 5:57:21 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; SJSAMPLE

26 posted on 11/30/2012 5:58:10 AM PST by EEGator
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To: tobyhill

If the Dems ever control both houses of Congress again it will happen faster than you can say Walking Around Money


27 posted on 11/30/2012 6:07:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: OldPossum

This has been done by tyrants before. The colonial legislatures frequently used to reign in the royal governors and the courts by withholding their pay and their funding. Then the King made there compensations come directly from Parliament, leaving the assemblies with very little power or leverage.

So we removed the king. And the lower, more numerous houses of the legislatures always held the monetary power.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 6:15:05 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: tobyhill; jimrob
The problem is not the debt ceiling, which by the way has been nonexistent for the past four years because there has been no budget. If there was to be a budget then there would be a budget constraint. Hence, this President and the Democrats win with no budget and the ability to continue unlimited printing of money. The Republicans are complicit in this obvious dereliction of Congressional duty and are enjoined with the President it raping the American people. No budget is a license to steal - and it is a way to do an end run around fiscal sound process of imposing constraints contained within a Budget; Continuing Resolutions allow the government to operate without a Budget. This is the entire problem in a nutshell.
29 posted on 11/30/2012 6:17:03 AM PST by Jumper
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To: reefdiver
Should not be any hesitation in answering this one. Smack it down with a note attached that their will be no increase unless there is an emergency such as an attack on the homeland.

That would be an invitation to stage a "wag the dog".

No increase unless Congress approves.

Regardless of the credit card limit, you reach your real limit when the monthly payments exceed your income.

30 posted on 11/30/2012 6:33:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: tobyhill
Give the SOB whatever he wants, and make sure he owns it.

We are long past the point of no return.

The sooner the global economy collapses and the bloodshed begins, the sooner the survivors can start rebuilding.

31 posted on 11/30/2012 7:05:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: tobyhill

FUTG. This idea should be DOA ! That a-hole should be in prison and IMHO, part of those responsible for the 2008 crash.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 7:05:18 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: tobyhill

Honestly they might as well. It’s not like the debt ceiling has accomplished anything. Hasn’t slowed spending, hasn’t spawned fiscal responsibility, all it’s done is make them increase it every couple of years. For all intents and purposes it doesn’t exist, they might as well make it official.


33 posted on 11/30/2012 7:08:08 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: tobyhill

might as well. It would make it easier on the Republican’s asses. The Democrats would not have to ream them as often. And the Democrats get what they want everytime anyhow.


34 posted on 11/30/2012 7:13:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Pecos

I did look up the phrase, thanks for the suggestion. It sounds more like Overton death or “Door In the Face” negotiation tactics you are describing though.


35 posted on 11/30/2012 9:18:44 AM PST by jurroppi1
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