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Posted on 11/24/2012 4:41:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
The gap is growing between liberals and conservatives, the rich and the not rich, intergenerational privilege and new-immigrant power, patriarchy and gender equality, the expanders of liberty and the withholders of it. And that gap, which has geographic contours — the densely populated coastal states versus the less densely populated states of the Rocky Mountains, Mississippi Delta and Great Plains — threatens the very concept of a United States and is pushing conservatives, left quaking after this month’s election, to extremes.
Some have even moved to make our divisions absolute. The Daily Caller reported last week “more than 675,000 digital signatures appeared on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states,” according to its analysis of requests made through the White House’s “We the People” online petition system.
According to The Daily Caller, “Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures, the number the Obama administration says it will reward with a staff review of online proposals.” President Obama lost all those states, except Florida, in November.
Snip nonsense and vomit
But even putting secession aside, it is ever more clear that red states are becoming more ideologically strident and creating a regional quasi country within the greater one. They are rushing to enact restrictive laws on everything from voting to women’s health issues.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Just as any properly functioning immune system does when an antigen is introduced.
The large population areas are liberal pustules that the body defends against.
Of course the Left is worried about secession.
‘Cuz then, they wouldn’t have productive people to take money from, to give to their non-productive voting majority.
(The sooner there’s a split from these fools & freeloaders, the better!)
Killing unborn baby girls is now “womens health” in their world. WTF?
Then try being a member of a minority group of retirees from a (huge) multi tier corporation who gets to spend his pension on health insurance for two.
If I didn't believe in conservative principles I'd consider Obamacare as revenge.
Scrawling in the New York Slimes, Charles M. Blow/Blowhard: The gap is growing between liberals and conservatives... rich and the not rich, intergenerational privilege and new-immigrant power, patriarchy and gender equality... expanders of liberty and the withholders of it... densely populated coastal states versus the less densely populated states... pushing conservatives, left quaking after this month’s election, to extremes.
I read the NY Times and New Republic (I like the old free Republic why fix it if it’s not broken?) just to know what the STATIST is thinking.
The left is a disparate mob of people who have nothing in common except their desire for big gubmint to address their grievance.
Environmentalists, unions, and every flavor of ______ (fill in the blank) activists.
The founding fathers gave us different state governments and 3 branches of fedrul gubmint. They saw this coming.
Ditto.
They seem incapable of seeing it in themselves ~
Blow is right. Demented and sad, but he is right. These people are not my fellow countrymen.
I recommend reading Charles Murray’s book “Coming Apart”.
His thesis is that 50 years ago we had a shared culture. We all watched the same 2 news channels, 5 tv shows and read the same 6 newspapers.
2012, there are 5,765,876,845 sources of information and entertainment.
The lefts version encourages crap that doesn’t work but sounds good.
Therein lies the crux -- a 180 degree difference in defining "personal liberties".
One side defines the option to kill one's baby as a "personal liberty". The other side defines that as murder.
One side defines the right to privacy as being free from unreasonable search and seizure. The other defines it as the freedom to do whatever you damn well please with whoever (or whatever) you want in your bedroom.
One side defines equality before the law as equal opportunity. The other defines equal opportunity as the right to an equal outcome.
One side defines "personal liberties" as implicit within a framework of virtue, the other explicitly denies the existence of a framework.
We're not the same people...at all.
LOL - so true, except for the 4 months of year when it is hotter than Hades.
they will never let us be. surely their liberal “dhimmitude” indicates a deep insecurity that can be effectively exploited when the time arises.
The way to fix all this is for the Federal Government to respect and honor the intent of the 10th Amendment. We must also honor the spirit of the 10th Amendment by not trying to impose our social mores and wishes on the the more liberal areas of this country. If California wants to legalize pot and have gay marriage, let them. In turn, NY shouldn’t impose their values on Texas. We have common interests in many other areas. With a more limited Federal Government role and more active state governments, we will have more harmony and liberty for all.
I too about choked when I read,"Democrats may want to expand personal liberties, but Republicans have spent the last few years working feverishly to restrict them." Huh? I had to reread it to make sure I read it right. Do these people live on the same planet?
They really think that a massive centralized federal government that taxes us to death and cranks out 50-100 regulations a day is 'expanding our personal liberties?' Do they think that socialized medicine, czars, bloated bureaucracies, trashing the constitution, Cloward-Piven strategy, orchestrated economic destruction, and planned gun control is 'expanding our personal liberties?' HHS, Homeland Security, all the 'Departments of,' executive orders almost daily, TSA, . . you name it.
As others have said, at least he recognizes the divide. It's not going to get any closer. . .
These statists are not my fellow countrymen. They are foreigners. I understand their goals and thoughts and it’s not American.
Time for a separation.
I knew this would happen eventually...I would get older and be as angry as Mark Levin.
The real issue is who will PAY for the grandiose schemes. The rich won’t. They’ll leave. The wealthy’s estates are already held in trusts.
The freeloaders and other moochers, takers and ‘organizers’ won’t.
Which leaves the people who work. Those folks are saying, “No. Get _______ your own damself.”
The Left broke this. They need to buy it.
“yep. After one such insane tirade Dennis Miller observed, “We really are two different tribes now.”
Too bad, but reality is what it is. One tribe striving to preserve ancient traditions that got us where we are today, one tribe seeking to strike off on its own self-defined course, not just leaving behind but destroying anything of worth.
Bad times ahead.”
Good post, short and succinct.
Did you ever see one of those films — made through microscopes — that show a single cell dividing? The two cells as they exist just before the separation, still with some common material stretched between them?
That’s where we are today. Two cells, two “tribes”.
Only yesterday, I recall a post by someone who used the language (paraphrasing), “a candidate who can unite us” again. Great platitude, but that time is over in America and it ain’t comin’ back. The country will NEVER again be united. The two sides are so ideologically opposed that common ground is all-but nonexistent, and reconciliation is impossible.
We are reaching that point in America where one of the two sides will remain a part of the whole only through force from above. A nation of un-alike peoples forcibly bound together, similar to Soviet-era Czechoslovakia.
The $64 question is whether at some point in the future, we can resolve our differences as did the Czechs and the Slovaks.
If we cannot, then we certainly are destined for the bad times ahead that you foresee...
>>>The progressive Left, in this country, has not yet shown a proclivity to use violence against their most implacable enemy, the conservatives. For the US Left, the thought of violence is an anathema to their exalted self image. <<<
Please allow me to politely disagree.
The left has shown a gleeful disposition when it comes to the destruction of a person’s reputation and character. Look at what they did to Clarence Thomas. The metaphorical gang rape of Sarah Palin and her children was chilling in its ferocity and enthusiasm. The left routinely paints their neighbors and fellow citizens as racist, bigoted, hate-filled, and warlike barbarians who deserve nothing but contempt. The left has organized college campuses to snuff out free speech. The left uses media technology to manipulate and outright lie about its own culture.
Certainly this is a step below genocide and the gulags - but only a step. The first thing you need to do is stigmitize the offending group, to shut them up, to make them seem distinctive and disgusting to polite society. The left has already done that to conservatives, and especially to Christians. They’re working on it for whites and men.
It’s the difference between emotional abuse and physical abuse. The left has been practicing emotional abuse for decades. Anyone who deals with abuse understands that physical violence is a next easy step.
God help us.
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