Posted on 11/20/2012 10:39:46 AM PST by kabar
In October, 70 members of the French youth group Génération Identitaire occupied the Poiters mosque to protest against the influence of Islam in France. The youths climbed to the roof and unfurled a banner with the name of their movement.
Now the movement is back with a powerful video—
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Actually, it isn't. Judeo-Christian values are part of Western Civilization not the other way around. Classical Greece, the Roman Empire, and ancient Israel formed the roots of Western Civilization. It's roots were long established before the birth of Christianity.
France has turned its back on Christianity and it is going straight down the tubes
Christianity is not Western Civilization anymore than a belief in the Greek and Roman pantheons of Gods and their place in the celestial firmament is. One need not be a Christian to have Western values.
Classical GReece, the Roman Empire and ancient Israel also formed the roots of the Russian civilisation and also of Islamic civilisation (at least until the 1700s and the rise of Wahabbiism)
Western Civilisation is part of this overall stream of Judeo-Christian values which also include the civilisations of the Russian states of Ethiopia, Georgia and Armenia and the Syriac Christianity that stretches from Syria to India and the Assyrian Christians
"Western values" as spread today which is pro-abortion, pro-gay etc. is not Christian, so in that respect you are correct
As I said, "Western Civilisation" is now about pro-abort, pro-gay and so in that respect you're correct
however, Judeo-Christian values with Roman law and Greek philosophy is what made Europe pre-eminent
Rome in its heyday was powerful in many ways, but it was not purely "european" -- rather it was centrally around the Mediterranean
And, at the same time it had as its peers the great Han Empire and the Gupta Empire and the Parthian Empire
Reverence for race?
If that's what they're about, I want none of it. Deifying genetics is for morons.
Islam is the largest part of the problem, but there actually are problems with all immigrants who come from different, non-Western cultures as well as blacks who come from the Caribbean and Africa--Christian or otherwise.
I have lived in five European countries for a period of 13 years. There is far more prejudice than in the US. The UK cannot be held up as an example of great tolerance, including even for Poles who went there to work.
That is reality, not the politically correct version of how groups interact with one another. We have far more countries today than we did when the UN was founded. Culture and language are extremely important bonds that tie people together and differentiate them from other groups.
There is no doubt that the elimination of colonialism the dissolution of countries that were defined by the colonial power rather than tribal or ethnic groupings has created many more countries. But there are plenty of cases such as the Czechs and Slovaks, the Scottish independence movement, the Québécois, etc. that demonstrate the desire of peoples to align themselves based on culture, language, and a shared history. To deny that is to deny human behavior.
The Leftist political elite have always believed that you could impose political, economic, and social systems that could alter human behavior. It dosen't work and we have countless examples to prove it.
Our Founders recognized that you couldn't change human behavior and came up with a system of government that recognized it by including various safeguards to protect our individual liberties. Government had to be limited so as to prevent human frailties from seizing the reins of power. Checks and balances, a written constitution, defining what the federal government could do; and relying on state and local government to counterbalance federal power.
Capitalism understands human nature and what motivates people to make profits. Although greed may be considered a vice, it is really a virtue if properly harnassed. Most people want to keep the fruits of their labor. The Communist collective farms found that out the hard way. And the Chicoms have tried to meld capitalism together with communism.
Nonsense.
however, Judeo-Christian values with Roman law and Greek philosophy is what made Europe pre-eminent
And it made America pre-eminent as well. Western Civilization has evolved to the point that it is the pre-eminent civilization in the history of Man. But great civilizations can decline and fall. That is what is happening now in many countries including our own. It is worth saving. I shudder what could take its place.
Rome in its heyday was powerful in many ways, but it was not purely "european" -- rather it was centrally around the Mediterranean. And, at the same time it had as its peers the great Han Empire and the Gupta Empire and the Parthian Empire.
Peers? No, some empires are more equal than others.
I cringed a bit when I read the word race, but I think in this context it had more to do with being French.
Deifying Genetics??? A bit extreme????
Apologies, I did a terrible job at getting my point across; and the last few years here at FR has shown that there are those who will just scan the threads looking to trounce on any slight nuance or idea.
I wonder if FR membership is declining?
I do wish everyone here to have a great Thanksgiving though!
Yes, the US has next to no prejudice compared to the French
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