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To: kabar
Christianity is not Western Civilization anymore than a belief in the Greek and Roman pantheons of Gods and their place in the celestial firmament is.

As I said, "Western Civilisation" is now about pro-abort, pro-gay and so in that respect you're correct

however, Judeo-Christian values with Roman law and Greek philosophy is what made Europe pre-eminent

Rome in its heyday was powerful in many ways, but it was not purely "european" -- rather it was centrally around the Mediterranean

And, at the same time it had as its peers the great Han Empire and the Gupta Empire and the Parthian Empire

85 posted on 11/21/2012 10:58:52 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
As I said, "Western Civilisation" is now about pro-abort, pro-gay and so in that respect you're correct

Nonsense.

however, Judeo-Christian values with Roman law and Greek philosophy is what made Europe pre-eminent

And it made America pre-eminent as well. Western Civilization has evolved to the point that it is the pre-eminent civilization in the history of Man. But great civilizations can decline and fall. That is what is happening now in many countries including our own. It is worth saving. I shudder what could take its place.

Rome in its heyday was powerful in many ways, but it was not purely "european" -- rather it was centrally around the Mediterranean. And, at the same time it had as its peers the great Han Empire and the Gupta Empire and the Parthian Empire.

Peers? No, some empires are more equal than others.

89 posted on 11/21/2012 12:08:44 PM PST by kabar
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