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Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states to use oil as 'weapon' against U.S.
Fox News ^ | 11/16/2012

Posted on 11/16/2012 12:03:01 PM PST by SargeK

A top Iraqi diplomat urged Arab states to “use the weapon of oil” against the United States because of its alliance with Israel, raising more questions about the Middle Eastern nation's allegiance to the nation that freed it from a ruthless dictatorship.

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To: Cronos
Then you look at Europe itself, totally in the tank for the Palestinians. Whose men died to defend it?

Firstly, Western Europe is not all of Europe. The nations that have supported the Palestinians now are Western European, not Central Europe.

Yes, I could have been more precise.  The sad fact is, I did provide enough information that there should have been no confusion who I was talking about.  You broke it out just right here.  It was my take most folks could do so, in the full context of my comments.  Why are you acting as if it wasn't perfectly clear to you who I was talking about?

Secondly, the men who died to defend it were in terms of numbers firstly European, then Russian then American.

Case in point, you just brought it to my attention that I should have referenced Western Europe, so you did know what portion of Europe I was talking about.

Then you reference losses, including the U. S. S. R.
  Tell me, how many losses did the U. S. S. R. have in Western Europe?


Did we fight to liberate Eastern Europe?  No.  So why would you try to point out to me that I should have only referenced Western Europe?

Now lets reference who had skin in this game.  The U. S. S. R. did.  Europeans did.  We didn't.  None the less, we sent our men to Europe to do the right thing.  Many of them remain in Europe to this day, in massive cemetaries.

Now we expect Europe to do the right thing, when it comes to Israel vs the Arabs.  If Eastern Europe is doing so, great.  I never accused it of not doing so.  I specifically mentioned the area we had fought to liberate. 
You know damn well what area that was.


WWII was won due to American military supplies to the USSR and to Britain and then due to the Soviets breaking the back of the Germans.

Okay then, the U. S. S. R. broke the back of the Germans in Western Europe?  Good to know.  Thanks.

Where did the U. S. S. R. lose the bulk of it's forces?  I'm fairly sure you know exactly where that was.  It did lose troops on the way to Berlin too
.

I guess the saturation bombing of German forces and factories across Europe into Berlin wasn't really necessary then.  I guess U. S. forces that traversed Italy up to Berlin, participated in D-Day and fought fierce battles from the French Coast to Berlin weren't really necessary either.  Gee, what a waste.  If we had only known.

Only Western Europe was liberated at the end of WWII -- for central Europeans the war ended in 1989...


My aren't you Captain Obvious.  Look, when it comes to the years Eastern Europe was occuped by the U. S. S. R., I have a lot of respect and sympathy for it's people.  And while the people there were having to deal with the ramifications of U. S. S. R. dictates on a daily basis, we in the United States were faced with the prospect of massive numbers of thermo-nuclear weapons strikes at any moment.  The U. S. S. R. had thirty thousand plus nuclear warheads, and a major portion of them were aimed at me and my fellow citizens.

The U. S. S. R. supported terrorists around the world.  It funded Marxist and Socialist activism in Europe, Asia, the Carribean, and even in the United States.  We didn't get a free ride during those years.  We had to counter the efforts of the U. S. S. R. constantly.  We didn't just do that for our interests.  We tried to do it for a lot of people's interest, including folks from other nations, and their governments.  And we expended massive sums of money over half a century to accomplish this.

At times when the U. S. S. R. took measures, moved troops and supplies to the edge of Easter Europe, the U. S. heightened our military stance, and made it perfectly clear we would not tolerate further adventurism.  Massive number of tanks were common on the U. S. S. R.'s Western most frontier.  We introduced Pershing missiles in Europe despite major objections by the governments there.  We did so, so that we could stop the Soviet tanks before they could invade.  If we hadn't, the U. S. S. R. would have been able to conquer all of Europe in a matter of days.  This caused increased tension between the U. S. S. R. and the U. S.  And it's something we could have avoided, if we had just let the U. S. S. R. know we wouldn't stand up to it on Europe's behalf.

The citizens of of the Eastern Block were a common focus of our global goals for decades.  I believe President Reagan's efforts eventually led to the fall and break-up of the U. S. S. R.

In light of our efforts on behalf of Europe, I believe we have a right to address others who have a need now, and chastise entities in Europe that are not using their heads.

I happen to believe Eastern Europe has been more sympathetic to Israel's plight.  It was not my intent to infer otherwise.  And I would expect anyone who has seen my writings on this site, would try to read my comments knowing that I am not going to be unfair to any people, and try to interpret my intent and meaning with that in mind.

And we both know, I gave you more information than needed, to make it perfectly clear what part of Europe I was talking about.



101 posted on 11/17/2012 4:39:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: cripplecreek

Gratitude. An Islamic trait since the 700s. (He said sarcastically.)

}:-)4


102 posted on 11/17/2012 4:46:53 AM PST by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: PsyOps
"...Screw this nation building crap. We should have permanent bases with a lot of land and natural resources now in Iraq... forever......."

The Roman knew how to take care of business, didn't they.....

103 posted on 11/17/2012 5:25:18 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: PsyOps
"...Screw this nation building crap. We should have permanent bases with a lot of land and natural resources now in Iraq... forever......."

The Romans knew how to take care of business, didn't they.....

104 posted on 11/17/2012 5:25:51 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: SargeK

Thank Dubya. It was his great idea to nation build in that cesspool.


105 posted on 11/17/2012 5:31:25 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: cripplecreek

none

This statement is but one inconsequential voice


106 posted on 11/17/2012 5:33:35 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: SargeK

It’s an old cliche, but: “We can burn our wheat. Let them eat their oil.”
With newly proven oil & gas fields in this country and other energy technologies such as ethanol production, that old cliche is truer to reality now than ever before. We need to cut off ALL foreign aid. The U.S. is broke. Let these camel humpers starve.


107 posted on 11/17/2012 5:44:26 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: PsyOps

“If we decide to sacrifice American lives in another war, then we keep a piece of the land we shed blood for.”

Big Media will never put up with that, so neither will the DWTS generation.

FU BO, and your mindless worshippers, too — FU FU!


108 posted on 11/17/2012 5:57:24 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: cripplecreek

>>...raising more questions about the Middle Eastern nation’s allegiance to the nation that freed it from a ruthless dictatorship.<<

Allegiance? Did anyone honestly believe these muzzies had an ounce of allegiance to America?


109 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:39 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: KTM rider

It`s getting to the point we`d be crazy for NOT thinking he`s the enemy inside the gates.


110 posted on 11/17/2012 6:15:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: SargeK

If we are going to keep playing empire, play it to the hilt.


111 posted on 11/17/2012 6:55:45 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SargeK
The LeMay school of foreign policy. Bomb them back to the stone age.
112 posted on 11/17/2012 6:58:12 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PsyOps

PsyOPs you nailed it. America has forgotten “To the Victor go the spoils”, as an important principle of warfare. You have to send a message both to the nation you have defeated and other nations who have any thoughts about taking you on down the road.


113 posted on 11/17/2012 7:02:19 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Cronos

Assad is the only friend of Christians in the area.


114 posted on 11/17/2012 7:06:29 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SargeK

As I’ve said for years, becoming energy independent (drill here, drill now) is not merely a matter of economics.

It is a matter of national security.

Those that have prevented the US from using her own energy resources have done so at the peril of our national security.

We don’t need an EMP to suffer the effects of a grid-down situation.

We only need to have our petroleum supply interrupted.


115 posted on 11/17/2012 7:09:51 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: cripplecreek
The only way this was going to work is if we took out Iran and Syria as well. Bush was playing dominoes. In the four years since we now had Iran closer than ever to a nuclear weapon. Afghanistan a mess, Iraq precarious, the Muslim Brotherhood and likely Al Queda running Egypt, Libya now a problem, etc. etc. Unbelievable.
116 posted on 11/17/2012 7:30:00 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SargeK

Maybe we’ll remember this the next time someone gets the bright idea to “bring democracy” to a bunch of uncivilized medieval blood-cultists.


117 posted on 11/17/2012 7:48:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Don’t forget Pakistan (not to mention So America)


118 posted on 11/17/2012 8:20:25 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: PGR88
I said from the start we should have "tested some nukes" over there after 911. It worked wonders for the Japanese. The Japanese during WW2 made Al-Qaeda look like the teletubbies, they were a 100 times more vicious and insane. A couple well placed nukes and here we are today where the most aggressive thing they do is pushing Hello Kitty on us.

"Surrender immediately or - or I will pamper you!"

119 posted on 11/17/2012 8:55:50 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
As I’ve said for years, becoming energy independent (drill here, drill now) is not merely a matter of economics.

It is a matter of national security.

Absolutely correct and very important.

This article shows that Iraq is taking Obama's lead. To bad he isn't leading from behind on this one.

The original attack on 911 in 2001 was an attack on our financial system by Osama.

Interesting how similar the name of The One who has continued that attack is to Osama.

This treasonous administration continues to do all it can to weaken our great country, The United States of Almerica.

120 posted on 11/17/2012 8:56:08 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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