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Giving amnesty to people who are here illegally and will then vote against you is not only immoral, it's suicidally counterproductive and will only rile up those who are jumping through bureaucratic hoops to immigrate or get a work visa in the U.S. legally.

He is also hitting all the buzzwords ("diversity," "modernization," "comprehensive reform," "pathway to citizenship," "undocumented immigrants") and deliberately confusing the issue by erasing the difference between political refugees (Cubans and others) and reconquistas from Central and South America.

That's the Bush-Romney "Hispanic surrogate" - 'nuff said?

1 posted on 11/15/2012 1:18:16 AM PST by CutePuppy
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Exactly why must the Country grant anything to these foreign nationals?


2 posted on 11/15/2012 1:19:23 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Shamnesty.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 1:23:31 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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GO AWAY EVERYTHING and EVERYONE ROMNEY!
4 posted on 11/15/2012 1:28:37 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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Well they gave us saint Ted Kennedy's deathcare reform might as well give us his amnesty reform. Then the majority can make Teddy a saint.
5 posted on 11/15/2012 1:29:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, Mitt Romney's top Hispanic surrogate, is calling for the Republican Party to "buzzword" and embrace comprehensive immigration reform in order to survive as a national party. "We need to buzzword. Buzzword includes buzzword. Obviously, immigration reform is part of that process of buzzword," he told The Hill on Tuesday. "We are the party of buzzword, of buzzword, of buzzword, of buzzword. We cannot continue to be that without an effective immigration policy."
8 posted on 11/15/2012 1:39:01 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're for sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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The illegals continue to demand unlimited immigration and total amnesty, coupled with some sort of perceived “right” to go to the head of the line, while those who wish to come here from Ireland, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Mali, Argentina, Ukraine and countless other nations fill out their forms and study English and wait. And wait. And wait.


10 posted on 11/15/2012 1:43:53 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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ROMNEY DIDN'T WANT AMNESTY!!!! He was TOUGH on this....that's why he lost the Hispanic vote, supposedly!!

Our country is LOST...GONE....IMMORAL.

12 posted on 11/15/2012 1:47:38 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVIENCE.)
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more democrats or else....


15 posted on 11/15/2012 1:59:31 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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There is not a single fact in this article, save one, that persuades me to the author's point of view. I have been saying since the election that we conservatives must not succumb to reactions about the debacle but must get good data. We have no data from this man. His opinion is utterly worthless. Opinion of this kind, whether coming from the right or the left, is of no value.

As noted above, there is one fact that is persuasive:

The former Cabinet official for then-President George W. Bush

George W. Bush is one of the big reasons we are in the fix we are in. It was not a Democrat but George Bush who signally failed at first to close the borders and enforce the laws against hiring illegal immigrants. I have never known for sure whether he did this as a cave in to the Chamber of Commerce or because he had a Mexican nanny as a child or a Hispanics sister-in-law. Whatever the reason, George Bush set us up for this catastrophe. How was the author, himself an Hispanic, advising George Bush while he was in the cabinet?

We need as conservatives to get good data. The questions have been asked, how do Hispanics actually vote on this issue, if we granted amnesty would we win the Hispanic vote? If we granted amnesty, do we have any assurance whatsoever that a whole new flood would not be encouraged? What does history teaches about the Hispanic vote in the last amnesty under Reagan? Did George Bush when his Hispanic votes because of his position on immigration and his lack of enforcement or for other reasons? Are Hispanics really the God-fearing, family oriented people who seek only jobs as has been advertised or are they a whole new class of dependency Democrats?

In the absence of data which answer some of these questions, we remain in the dark and vulnerable.


17 posted on 11/15/2012 2:10:51 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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So think of it this way:

1. Given that obama is pro-muslim with a stated goal of righting America’s past “wrongs”
2. Given that obama leans toward muslims even with terrorist leanings
3. Given that obama supports far-left Statist rule as his means of achieving goals

How does immigration reform further these goals? How much of the illegal population in the U.S. will solidify his coalition for pro-terrorist, Statist rule?


23 posted on 11/15/2012 2:35:34 AM PST by gotribe
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The vast majority of Hispanics are hard core socialists from socialists countries—they will always vote Democrat and giving them stuff to vote for Republicans works as well as giving blacks stuff to vote Republican—usefull as tits on a boar hog.
Even amnesty candidates like W and McCain barely got a third of their votes.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 2:46:33 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Obama is Satan's evil twin.")
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I got your immigration reform--right here!

Close the border.

Deport those who are here illegally--period.

Any city or state which provides sanctuary can have their Fed funds cut to zero, across the board.

Not only would billions be saved in everything from 'social programs' to law enforcement, there just aren't many jobs Americans won't do any more.

25 posted on 11/15/2012 2:48:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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"We need to modernize. Modernization includes diversity. Obviously, immigration reform is part of that process of diversity," he told The Hill on Tuesday. "We are the party of growth, of business, of entrepreneurship, of innovation. We cannot continue to be that without an effective immigration policy."

In 1986, the Simpson-Mazzoli Act was supposed to take care of our illegal immigration problem once and for all. The "amnesty" part was implemented, but the closing borders to stop illegal immigration was derailed. As a result, more illegals poured into the country without papers because they would get amnesty.

Now the problem of illegal aliens has grown at least ten fold. But we say to reward them by giving them citizenship in preference to the millions denied entry to this country because they followed the law.

The guilty who undermined the Simpson-Mazzoli Act have been rewarded. The Democrats gloss over this and demand that the USA reward those who would jump the line in front of those who obey the law. The Democrats have no interest in protecting our borders, or addressing a fair policy for the millions who wait. What a country!

31 posted on 11/15/2012 3:09:51 AM PST by olezip
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When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

Ever hear of reciprocal agreements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries such as Mexico they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .


32 posted on 11/15/2012 3:16:45 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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Fully enforce existing law and crucify anyone employing an illegal alien and they will all be gone in 60 days!!!


33 posted on 11/15/2012 3:21:15 AM PST by dalereed
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Get off your knees, Carlos, you're embarrassing all of us.
35 posted on 11/15/2012 4:01:31 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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This is the sort of backstabbing we would have had to put up with if romney the RINO had been elected. See what kind of democrat lite he surrounded himself with? If romney had won, he would have been a one termer.


37 posted on 11/15/2012 4:23:51 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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Immigration reform would be good, but not the way the democrats want it.
Work, student and tourist visas should be required and rarely issued to people coming from middle east countries that hate us.


38 posted on 11/15/2012 4:32:58 AM PST by I want the USA back
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There is a ‘pathway to citizenship’. It’s a legal pathway that doesn’t include illegal entry.

Acceptance of ‘diversity’ should also include accepting diversity in the political landscape - not trying to monopolize the political process by diluting your opposition out of existence - which is the goal of the left. They actually can’t stand diversity, unless it’s the kind of ‘diversity’ that leads a political monopoly for them.


39 posted on 11/15/2012 4:34:10 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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dont worry ..only 6 out of 10 are illegals...and law breakers..


40 posted on 11/15/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by dalebert
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