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1 posted on 11/13/2012 1:50:54 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What we learned??? The ends justifies the means. Lie cheat whatever to win... Lie about your opponent... Bald face lie.. Tell everyone he is a liar, Cheat, killer, whatever to win!!!


2 posted on 11/13/2012 1:54:08 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: neverdem

#1 message:

DO NOT DEVIATE FROM OUR VALUES!!! NO MORE RINOS!!!!!

If we tee up a real Conservative (Ryan?) we will win.

Do NOT back off. Do NOT become obama claus. Do NOT open the borders and pander to Latinos (they won’t vote Conservative anyway — the Latino vote REDUCED after Reagan signed the amnesty).

Do NOT sacrifice our integrity.

That is the winning formula.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 1:54:58 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: neverdem

Vote early. Vote often. Register your dogs and cats and dead relatives.

/sarcasm!!!!!


4 posted on 11/13/2012 1:57:12 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: neverdem

I learned there is no rape exception here. I can accept that but I doubt enough women voters will accept it enough to vote GOP ever again.


5 posted on 11/13/2012 2:01:50 PM PST by soycd
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The hardest thing for conservative elites to assimilate from this election is the rejection of Romney’s economic message by the voters

To me, that's the most stunning aspect of it all. Romney articulated a positive, optimistic message about an America that rights itself and returns to an era of economic growth and prosperity. Obama, by contrast, attacked Romney 24/7.

So much for the idea that negative campaigning is a turnoff. It may be to some people, but it undeniably works.

This election also showed the fateful tipping point was reached and passed. The ruling majority in America is either of the taker class or a big supporter of it. Either way, it's comprised of people who are strongly of the belief someone else has dibs on much of what you earn.

It also showed Americans are quite willing to overlook the abject failure of Obama in the foreign affairs arena. Averting its eyes to the Benghazi terror attack and the utter failure of the Obama regime during the "Arab Spring" months, voters allowed themselves to be convinced Obama was simply doing a splendid job safeguarding the nation.. when nothing could be further from the truth.

It reaffirmed my disdain for mushy middle "independent" voters, those linguini-spined jellyfish who let the last shiny bling on the way to the polling booth guide their vote. Case in point was that fateful photo op with Obama and his new BFF Christie, bear hugging and mugging before the cameras. Exit polls showed more than 50% of indies who made up their minds just before the election were swayed by that image... regardless of what the actual outcome for the locals turned out to be.

6 posted on 11/13/2012 2:02:04 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: neverdem

At first glance, Frank Cannon got it about right. Lots of good points above.

I believe the overall message is that the GOP is operating on an old model of marketing and GOTV. Lots have been discussed about GOTV, but the marketing side impacted signiiantly. Many have pointed to Romney being defined all summer by Obama. This is true, and that should have been answered at the time. The bigger issue (as far as how to correct) is to use advertising that gets to the key voters. Obama started running ads on Facebook, newspapers, and other online display ads early in 2012 redefining his economic record as ‘recovery’. They used the famous jobs graph showing job growth starting in the month of his inauguration and growing every month since. There were others. We never countered that argument, thinking people would ignore propaganda and make decisions based on their own situations. That was a poor assumption.

We needed to hammer and reinforce the many areas of damage done as his policies were enacted. We needed to use clips of Obama and Biden predicting their big economic recovery in 2009 and 2010...and then show data that demonstrated they were wrong. In retrospect, I am shocked at how our side let the opposition set the narrative...and that narrative was reflected down the line in election day polls.


8 posted on 11/13/2012 2:05:24 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: neverdem

GOPe and the RNC are the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

With their promotion of Romney and total abject failure of support for good and decent candidates like Bachman they shot themselves in the foot. In fact, both feet.

These jackasses went out of their way and spent millions in their pursuit of delivering on quid pro quo after Romney went around papering other Republicans for their flattery and endorsements.

Then they winked at Boehner who wanted payback for a Congress Woman who spoke her mind and was never shy about where she stood and they were very clear in their agenda to see her fail by with holding congressional monies to ensure she would remain competitive.

The just dessert was her prevailing despite open opposition from her own team.

FU Boehner, Blubberer, Cowardly Lion,. With a crappy synthetic tan. If you are opposed in your next race I’m sending money to that person in the hopes to end your self serving carreer....

You too Cantor...

FU Reince Priebus, your stoopit name sounds like some idiotic, greenie, solar Loser product ...

You weren’t one iota better or different than Steele...


9 posted on 11/13/2012 2:07:54 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

Conservatives should not split their vote in the primary elections, they should unite behind one candidate four.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 2:08:11 PM PST by Liberal Bob (looneyleft.com)
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To: neverdem

Quick show of hands here...who would rather wallow in permanent political minority status for a generation before making real, serious concessions to libertarians and Ron Paul supporters to form a coalition with them?


11 posted on 11/13/2012 2:08:57 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: neverdem

Giving your all might work... giving your 20% does not.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 2:12:28 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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” Finally, ask yourself: What Democrat with national stature will be able to replicate Obama’s ability to enthuse and mobilize such a wide and deep coalition? Not Biden, not any of the congressional leaders, nor the governor of any large state. In contrast, we can already see Rubio, Ryan, and (yes) Christie on the GOP side.

Conservatives have a lot to worry about over the next four years. Permanent minority status is not one of them.

— Gerard Alexander is associate professor of politics at the University of Virginia.”

Yeah, we need more Rubios and Christies....

Nothing on stopping voter fraud, just a bunch of pukeneos
spewing the same tired bromides : )


19 posted on 11/13/2012 2:26:35 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: neverdem; vette6387; mazda77; left that other site; ZULU; rodguy911; bitt; onyx; Forty-Niner; ...

IMO, FUBO won via Massive voter fraud and no one, absolutely no one or any agency in DC, has the spine and guts to expose it

Can we agree that the gutless GOP leadership and the Romney Campaign are all eunuchs?


20 posted on 11/13/2012 2:28:23 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: neverdem

I’ll read this later but re the headline what comes to mind is ENFORCE THE DAMN LAWS, ALL OF THEM NO MATTER WHO BREAKS ONE


21 posted on 11/13/2012 2:29:32 PM PST by drypowder
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To: neverdem

What I learned is Romney seems to quite happy he lost..
Doesn’t bother him a bit... maybe he “knew” he was going to lose..

The first debate was so he could “save face”...
He don’t seem to be all that unhappy with claims of VOTER FRAUD either..
Like he already KNEW something..

Like he was “picked” to be the “Schlemazel”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLsukIsrcMI


26 posted on 11/13/2012 2:45:54 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: neverdem

” - What can we learn from Election 2012”

Cheating works.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 2:47:13 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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What have we learned?

1)That the People Have Spoken, and they have said, “DUHHHHHHHHH”.....

2)That Hispanics may be onboard with pro-life, pro-family traditional values, but when it comes time to vote they’re on the side of the gubbermint check.

3)That the Under 30 crowd is an utterly lost generation, unserious, lacking in education, fully self-absorbed, and a sitting duck for any despot who comes along with a really good marketing campaign.

4)That social networking tools like Twitter have essentially destroyed the country by allowing Democrats to microtarget messages to each individual voter. You’re a 22 year old slut that wants free abortions and birth control? That’s our #1 priority, Vote Obama! You’re a 29 year old grad student who wants all his student loans forgiven? That’s our #1 priority, Vote Obama! You’re a 24 year old trangendered cult member who wants NASA to launch a probe to Uranus to find the mother ship? That’s our #1 priority Vote Obama! Etc. etc. etc.

5)That despite our proud boasting to the contrary, Americans are just as much into envy and class warfare as any other human beings on the planet.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 2:49:54 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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What did we learn? ... Too many takers dependent on the gov’t dime. They don’t care about unemployment, gas prices, Benghazi, etc. Obozo should have been fired for his job performance but was not. This election is as depressing as it gets and not sure now what the future holds for anyone with conservative values to make it to the WH. Sorry for the doom and gloom post but it’s what have been thinking since last Tuesday :(


31 posted on 11/13/2012 2:56:27 PM PST by mbird139
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from Frank Cannon: "...it is critical that the GOP get the social issues right. The truce strategy is the most politically ineffectual position possible. Republicans this election cycle adopted pro-life, pro-marriage, and pro-religious-liberty positions while showing voters they would not publicly promote or defend them. "

Exactly!

My worst disappointment with Romney came when he immediately condemned Todd Akin. This was just after Akin's comment that was caricatured as the so-called "legitimate rape" statement.

Yes, Akin's phrasing was clumsy. And yes, he should have realized he was being hooked into a "gotcha" situation. But beyond that, Akin's statement was not malicious, nor woman-hating, nor "offensive" (to any fair minded person). In fact, what Akin said was 100% correct (and I can say that 'cause I'm a woman /s) .

What would Ronald Reagan have done in that situation? I believe that Reagan would've done the opposite of Romney -- i.e. he would have seized the opportunity to explain to the public what being pro-life really means.

And thereby he would've won the hearts and minds, the respect, and the VOTES of many women -- even if they didn't agree entirely with his pro-life position.

41 posted on 11/13/2012 3:41:37 PM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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They will most likely learn the wrong lesson. Republicans are really good at that.


49 posted on 11/13/2012 4:13:03 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Bfl


54 posted on 11/13/2012 4:47:11 PM PST by Drew68
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