Posted on 11/12/2012 6:17:01 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Bid for freedom: People from the states marked in red have lodged petitions asking to break away from the rest of the United States since Obama returned to the White House
Although America carried President Obama confidently into a second term last Tuesday - not everyone is jumping for joy at the prospect of four more years.
Tens of thousands have put their names to secession petitions in 20 states, asking that they peacefully become independent from the rest of the country.
The documents have been lodged on a government website We The People - and Texas has almost enough people behind its petition to warrant an official White House response.
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They’ll have to pledge their lives, because the federal government will NOT allow this to happen! Does anyone really think Washington is going to give up a huge chunk of its power, resources and tax revenue? There would be a very short and very bloody fight, and then things would be unimaginably worse.
I mean, who has modern warfare equipment stowed in their garage? Am I wrong? I wish I could think of a way this would work, but I just don’t see how it could. This is 2012; not the 1860’s.
60%? ....70%?....
Oh! Gee! I KNOW.....140% would need to vote Republican.
Me too
Texas now has 56,390 signatures. Top of the list of items on Obama website. Texas has been growing all night by leaps & bounds.
Lousinana also has more than 25 thousand already and the other states are cawing their way up the list fairly quickly as well.
Your right the white-house will probably say something along those lines if they honor their plege at all. But that will only embolden Texas secessionist more to work on plans to defiy Obama. Making the case that Obama has a captive population of slaves in his mind not the willing but people he has forced to do his bidding on their own land with their own property.
Obama will all but gleefly accnolage that, making some speech about obligations to the sociology as if our birth and home forces us to serve others against our will. Really just anther name for slavery.
“”I’d like a different petition: to send all the Californian expats in Boulder/Denver etc. back to their failed utopias.
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Me too”
That is all the more reason why we need to withdraw from the union. Leftist are like locust after they exhaust every hard earned resource of their native state (or area) before moving on to our homes to start the process over again.
They won’t learn from the failure of their evil ideology and its self-destructive impact upon their own state and instead chasing us and our prosperity to the ends of the earth sneaking to steal it.
Well we can’t run forever, our forefathers set-foot upon this content running from this evil in old Europe and now we have no where else to go. We have to make a stand, we have to build a wall to separate the free from the would be Slaves.
As long as the left does not acknowledged their own self-destructive habits that is possible.
Washington will not allow any state out of its grasp. IMHO, a modest demonstration of US military might would be enough to change most petitioners’ minds. I believe our own government would use more force as an example against its own people, than it would against others. I also believe many secessionists would gladly fight and die, but the war wouldn’t last for more than a day, if that. I know it’s possible to secede, I just don’t think it’s possible to succeed.
I guess we’re fixin’ to see how this will play out.
Friend, it's been twenty years since Hillary first landed on the national stage (as the First Lady). Twenty long years, with her name in the press nearly every day.
People tire of public figures who remain too long at the forefront of our national politics. People in Congress can get away with it, because the public pays little attention to them individually.
Hillary had a real (but final) chance to reach the Oval Office in 2008. She wound up having to settle for SoS, instead. It will be her last publicly held office. She's simply far too old and haggard to run again and be competitive - even now. In another four years, she'll be even more-so. She'll be nearly as old as Reagan was in 1980.
Reagan's natural charm, charisma, and dynamism trumped his advanced age, and he beat the hapless liberal, Jimmy Carter, in a landslide. Hillary, on the other hand, has negative charisma, so her advanced age would be a huge factor to shallow Democrats, who will be looking to elect another rock star candidate in 2016.
She'd also have the daunting task of providing voters with a clear alternative to the preceding four years, which are going to be a disaster on an unprecedented scale. Tell me, what's so different about Hillary's and Obama's basic ideology? You see? There is none. There isn't any way that any Democrat will be able to position themselves further away from Obama's politics, as a Republican candidate can - hence, the Republican candidate is the likely bet for the win.
That's provided the GOP (or what remains of it) runs a grass roots, bare knuckled, patriotic conservative.
Which would be why I didn’t sign up and vote.
“I guess we’re fixin’ to see how this will play out.”
I got to be honest with you, I wish we were, but I suspect we may be too late in the game to stop the horde of locust from consuming us all at this pont.
It seems very unlikely that we could put together a large enough movement to erect a strong enough wall to stop them from getting here and overpowering us. Still as I’ve been saying for a while now we have to try or we be dammed for never having fought for our lives & freedom.
“Washington will not allow any state out of its grasp. IMHO, a modest demonstration of US military might would be enough to change most petitioners’ minds. I believe our own government would use more force as an example against its own people, than it would against others. I also believe many secessionists would gladly fight and die, but the war wouldn’t last for more than a day, if that. I know it’s possible to secede, I just don’t think it’s possible to succeed.”
Die for a chance to show Washington & the world that we ain’t no lot of slaves, that we still yern for freedom. I think that is a cause worth dying for.
In any even I think it should justifiably be regarded as a political disaster worthy of condemnation in the strongest of terms by the whole world.
After we supported the sepertist in Bosnian and around the world. To turn our backs upon the will of the people in our own land would be a supremely hypocritical move. It would undermine the very notion that America is a democracy.
Ha, Good point!!! Rename Houston Kosovo. How about those poor chechens, denied their own country by big mean Russia.
“0bama would never let this happen without a fight. The military would be divided which would lead to a bloody conflict. The real danger would come from an opportunistic foreign power that would either invade America or would strike a deal with 0bama to support him with troops if he agreed to be a figurehead dictator while they made all the decisions. Whether that would be Russia, China or Iran, is the question.”
This is the scenario Obama was installed to create in the U.S. Nothing shocking or unexpected is happening. All this was set in motion the day Obama took over the presidency.
That’s the sad fact. Our leaders ARE hypocritical, and our once strong, free nation is washed up. The government doesn’t give a damn if their hypocrisy is exposed; in fact, they seem to relish it, especially if it confuses and demoralizes the spirit of the good people of this land.
That doesn’t mean we can’t put up the good fight. But no, FRiend, I’m afraid the sad truth is, the government will not allow power, resources and tax revenue to secede and slip through its greedy, controlling grasp. That’s all we are to them, a nation of consumers who feed at the trough and then, one way or another, feeds the insatiable monster.
I’m sure I’m just as angry and upset as you are, and I don’t know the answers. I realize I’m terribly depressed, and maybe I’m not seeing things as clearly as I think I am; but I feel it’s best to stay and fight to get my country back, no matter the personal costs.
I see no justice in fighting for a people who have in their hearts abandoned the cause of liberty. I see only justice in allowing them who desire chains to wear them while them who desire freedom to seek it.
To do that requires some level of separation whether that separation be thou real federalism or secession is up to Washington politicians. I am with you in that I too would very much like to see a Federalist solution. But i do not see any solution if we do not push for that separation in whatever form we can get it.
One has to create a divide to sue for compromise, less one be ignored by a Federal capital incapable of hearing any but the loudest of voices and gravest of immedete threats. That being said if push came to shove I make no apologies about desiring an Independence country of vinous men & women. Nor am I above war to accomplish that end. Freedom is a commodity so valuable i cannot foresee any price too high in obtaining or preserving it.
As always do what you think is right, but understand politics is and always has been the art of the possible. If wish our dreams to see light, we must maneuver the land & situation so that they are in the domain of the politically possible.
Utah going to China? Maybe, they can start with Jon Huntsman.
Hillary won’t need to govern all the time, Huma will be the real power behind the throne.
Texas has surpassed 25,000 votes. The WH has probably placed a limiter on the remaining petition counters. Team 0bama got lots of practice after this election.
” I sure hope that their ideas and actions spread...”
This would be a gift for Obama. He can play Abraham Lincoln, his favorite President, and can suspend Habeas Corpus just like he did, and abuse it like a bloodthirsty banana dictator, unlike Abe, who didn’t go quite that far. He can also push through sweeping constitutional changes, as was done after Abe’s death, but this will not be merely abolishing slavery and granting full citizenship rights to freedmen. After crushing the secessionists, he can admit Cuba as the 52nd State in the Union, and Venezuela as the 53rd, and nationalize all manufacturing and agriculture.
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