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1 posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:26 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No... no... don’t throw us in that briar patch!

:p


2 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Aiken WAS part of the problem because he was stupid and arrogant, and ending up costing us a senate seat.

Mourdock seemed OK until his gaffe, Lugar wasn’t a prize to begin with.

I do think that Social Conservatism has a shrinking base among younger generations, and I don’t know how that is to be reversed.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:42 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: neverdem

The Republican Party needs to stick to Conservative principles and Conservative candidates.

If we begin to chase power and control at the price of our values, we are lost as a country and the Constitutional Republic has failed.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:59 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: neverdem

How many won’t read the article?


5 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: neverdem

We can leave on our own, thank you very much. Have fun trying to win an election without your base, it’ll be fun to watch I bet.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Nobody’s throwing me out, I’m leaving on my own accord... It’ll take ‘em thirty years to realize they can’t win without true conservatives...


8 posted on 11/10/2012 8:15:08 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: neverdem

Come 2016,the GOP is looking at having won the popular vote ONCE (with George W Bush in 2004) since Bush SR. was elected in ‘88! And what too many on the GOP (willfully)forgot is that Bush won the popular vote AND the election in ‘04 in BIG part BECAUSE gay “marriage” was being voted down that same year in,I believe, eleven states! But the GOP has now abandoned the social conservatives....telling them the winning strategy is to just concentrate on fiscal issues......
afraid of appearing too extreme to the “moderates” and “undecideds”.(That they alienate a third of their base doing that seems to escape them!) Hasn’t THAT strategy worked out “great” these last two elections?

Painful to accept,I know,but we lost in ‘92 with Bush,lost in ‘96 with Dole,ALMOST lost with George W in ‘00,lost with McCain in ‘08,and now we lost with Romney!

As was proven in Massachusetts in 2010,when the republican candidate for governor Charlie Baker (who called himself to the left of Obama on social issues) lost to Deval Patrick,and again on Tuesday when Scott Brown lost to Lizzie Warren (after he had been bragging about how he voted to repeal DADT),YOU DON’T WIN AN ELECTION BY TURNING YOUR BACK ON A THIRD OF YOUR BASE TO KISS-UP TO PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER VOTE FOR YOU ANYWAY!


10 posted on 11/10/2012 8:16:16 PM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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I think it is going to be a race out of the door. Who leaves first...the Conservatives or the RINOs.

Scott Brown, who couldn’t wait to lick Kerry’s rear, and Heather Wilson? LOL


12 posted on 11/10/2012 8:18:20 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: neverdem

I doubt Heather Wilson ever explained to the people of NM how radical her opponent is. Of coursed, they probably wouldn’t understand if she had bothered to do so.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 8:30:23 PM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting. I think it will continue.)
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Conservatives have 35% of the voting block. We cannot allow the MSM and GOP-e run our primaries. Romney ran around with his dirty ads destroying everyone he could. He was a northeast liberal and he got a free pass from the MSM through the primaries. McCain and Romney are RINOs and I didn't vote for either.

Kansas GOP now has 32 of the 40 state senate seats and 97 of 120 house seats. GOP Governor and US congressional delegation. WE don't have a GOP problem here!

29 GOP Governors, nationwide. POTUS is overrated. Think of the size the fed should be and what really belongs to the states and that's what the real power of the POTUS - the rest is a paper tiger.

27 posted on 11/10/2012 8:33:21 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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The problem is not the ideas, its the candidates themselves. Today’s politics left and right is populated by ignorant and incoherent practitioners. Compare what you hear in today’s discourse with the rhetoric of the 19th Century. It is shameful. Because some ignorant moron makes a fool of himself we have other morons blaming the ideas. I’m sorry, I can’t escape the truth, I cringe sometimes when some of our own champions speak. The other side, forget about it. Maybe a school of rhetoric should be created to teach our candidates to be able to communicate clearly. It was an essential part of a good education for centuries. If our Founding Fathers watched any debate during the last election cycle, they would cry.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 8:36:39 PM PST by gusty
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To: neverdem
Todd Akin wasn't tea party. He was establishment and a Mike Huckabee protege. Steelman was the tea party candidate.

The problem is people who are stupid with their mouths. Their mouths are the problem, not their views. People in even liberal districts will vote for strong conservatives who are competent legislators and won't embarrass us. Pro-life candidates have won in the social liberal Philly suburbs of all places.

37 posted on 11/10/2012 8:47:59 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again Conservatives will only win if they adopt Reagan's three legged stool strategy they need social, fiscal/small government and military conservatives to win.

IMHO and as graphically illustrated in the election most conservatives only talk and associate with folks in the echo chamber of their own views insisting only one or two legs are needed..they are wrong all three must be present for conservatives to have a chance of winning

41 posted on 11/10/2012 8:52:28 PM PST by montanajoe
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Romney was part of the Hegelian Dialectic-—the GOP has been for the longest time——so that we move Left with each synthesis.

The Republican Party has moved so far left that it is barely Christian—and now the Democrats are outright Marxists and proud of it.

We need to get Christian Ethics back and the Natural Family unit where it is not being attacked 24/7. You need control of your children’s education!!!!!!!

Leftist knew in 1930, the way to destroy America and turn it into a socialist state would be to destroy marriage—to get millions of welfare dupes and destroy the Christian religion—which also destroys the natural family since immoral people treat others horribly. (They mocked God in the schools with Darwinism, mocked God in Art, and on TV since Archie Bunker.)

The agenda is to CHANGE the WORLDVIEW (Marxist/sodomite/pagan) and is orchestrated by the MSM and schools and the elites who pick both candidates who are allowed to run.

Conservatives who would win are never allowed into the game-—until the masses are so immoral or the Chicago machine fully controls the voting machines—like they have in Chicago for over a hundred years......then, we will be toast. (Maybe it is too late because they own the judges too now). We have no avenue to get control of anything unless we change the “thinking” of the masses. We have to get our kids out of the schools—burn the curricula—it was designed by Marxists—Dr. Ruggs-—Billy Ayers—sick twisted people affecting the way our children are “allowed” to think.

All conservatives/Christians need there children OUT of public schools and unpluged from TV which is shaping their immoral/Marxist worldview.

YOU shape it—it is worth ALL your time and money. Don’t allow the Leftists to ply their minds with garbage and disinformation since the socialist Dewey destroyed curricula—embedded it with socialist garbage and psychology to make kids into “group thinkers”——part of an emotional herd—to be herded like they did with the OWS. Instill Classical knowledge and explicit phonics and the Bible (again). It is the only way to freedom again—minds like our Founders. Minds that want freedom and responsibility.


45 posted on 11/10/2012 8:58:22 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Another straw man concocted that if we go neutral on the social issues we are for the other extremes. It is such an issue loaded with land mines that we need to leave these issues to the pro life organizations and the churches.


49 posted on 11/10/2012 9:04:51 PM PST by lone star annie
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Well, it appears to me that if more social conservatives had voted, Mitt would have won. I do think it would be nice if some of the candidates could avoid opening their mouth and inserting their foot as well as taking the obvious bait that is always going to be thrown their way.

Aiken and the other guy are not God, and they ain't King Solomon either. Why can't they just express sympathy for a woman who has been raped, and faces a difficult situation?

They could just say they thank god, that as man they will never face such a difficult circumstance.

They could say that such a difficult situation should be between the mother, her God, and her Doctor, and he wouldn't presume to be omnipotent.

He might even re-frame the situation by discussing the roots of the movement to permit abortion. It was a racist and bigoted movement because certain elites thought that there were certain groups of people who should not reproduce.

Millions of black babies have been killed. This genocide has been whole heartedly supported by the same party that supported the KKK - The Democrats.

It is a question that is sure to come, and to be so clueless and inept in answering shows a certain incompetence of communication that is unbelievable.

They should have decided the best way to deal with this question and practiced the answer till it was perfect.

56 posted on 11/10/2012 9:32:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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I been calling for ditching the crackpots who say stupid stuff and nuke their own causes for a while.

Akin is an obvious example. He hurt his own cause.


58 posted on 11/10/2012 9:35:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Boehner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: neverdem

Liberals are proposing this because they care deeply about the GOP and want to help us win more elections. ROTFL.


74 posted on 11/10/2012 10:46:07 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: neverdem

Erickson with a moment of clarity.

Without the socons, the Republican Party loses what remains of its backbone as well as any claim it may possess to moral authority. And some of us are ready to leave anyway.


75 posted on 11/10/2012 10:48:12 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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We need to run anti gay marriage and pro life ads constantly on stations that are black and Hispanic stations, even now, long before the next election. It should be done by a religious organizations that aren’t classified as tax free so they can speak their mind. It must be hammered into the heads of blacks and Hispanics that to vote for a politician that will promote either of these sins is a vote against Jesus. Give Bible verses. The next candidate needs to be very anti gay marriage and pro life so the line drawn is a clear one that can not be disputed. These issues rather than the weak links in our party, are the strongest. The dumb RINOs just can’t understand this.


77 posted on 11/10/2012 10:53:09 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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