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Frum: Republicans 'Fleeced, Exploited And Lied To' By 'Conservative Entertainment Complex'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 11/09/2012 7:29:33 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

David Frum blames the media for Mitt Romney's loss. Not the liberal media, of course--we are talking David Frum, after all. No, Frum blames the conservative media, or as he calls it, "the conservative entertainment complex."

Frum touted his upside-down take on the media during a Morning Joe appearance today while promoting his instant e-book, "Why Romney Lost." Joe Scarborough liked the line so much he asked Frum to repeat it. Frum refused to name names, saying he does so in his book, but there's little doubt whom he was targeting.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativemedia; davidfrum; morningjoe; msm
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There was “conservative media” all over the place telling, pleading with Romney to be tough and bring up Bengahzi, Obama’s illegal executive proclamations, obama’s czars, obama’s associations, obama’s corrupt connections, his ties to Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright—but Roms didn’t listen and went down the same nice-guy path that McCain did. So Frum is an idiot to BLAME conservative media. This is all spin to keep the same meme going and to try to tear down conservatism even further.

Mitt’s a good, nice guy, but if you’re not willing to fight fire with fire, well, you’re not going to do anyone any good.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:28 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is absurd.

I’m tired of all the finger pointing.

There are multiple reasons why Romney lost, and placing blame on any particular entity is stupid.

1) Romney was a terrible candidate. He couldn’t even win primaries in 2008. It took him six years and untold millions of dollars to get the nomination. He had a hard time even buying votes.

2) A lot of thumb-sucking narcissistic voters sat at home because they won’t vote for an imperfect candidate and opted to let realists do what they could to depose Obama. They watched, and we couldn’t do the job without their help.

Duct tape over the mouths of anyone who abstained or who voted third party. They have lost the right to gripe for four years, because THEY are a big part of the problem.

3) And, finally, the real blame lies on the backs of the majority of U S voters who are too stupid to do simple math. They think and -2 + -2 = 4 and that if you continue to add -2s, we’ll all be better off. Too many voters have become leeches, and they have voted us into bankruptcy and financial ruin.

I know some of these idiots, and you do, too. They think only of themselves, if they think at all. And that is the sad reality of the mess we are in.

I’m getting ready to ride it out. At this point, maybe we have to crash and burn and rebuild. Some people, a majority of Americans, are incapable of rational thought and have to learn the hard way.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:28 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

McCain, 2008 popular vote: 58,319,442

Romney, 2012 popular vote: 58,163,978

4 years of population growth and Romney didn’t draw what McCain did......


23 posted on 11/09/2012 7:53:43 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: dowcaet
Well Rush was right. You can’t beat Santa Claus...
Frum is a media diva who wants to stay connected
with the establishment and the Wash. D.C./NYC
party circuit..The guy’s a wimp.
add to (seemingly) that Karl Rove...its only a meal ticket / no beliefs...
Way too much (stuffed-shirt) "triangulation" mentality...not enough flyover country.

24 posted on 11/09/2012 7:58:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR 8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Agreed, and throw Dick Morris into that group too.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 8:06:15 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

EXACTLY correct. I am absolutely 100% done with Fox, Rush, pundits of all shades and colors. And they keep trying to play us. Granted, I haven’t been much of a “news entertainment” fan anyway, but we have been their patsy long enough. Their pollsters were also dead last this time.

Time for us to stop being lemmings.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 8:08:36 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mark Cuban has a blog post up saying pretty much the same thing. Fox (which has the largest audience in news) fired up the liberal base for two weeks going into the election by saying The Messiah was going to lose. The well timed “revenge” comment was just the icing on the cake. Cuban also argues indys broke to the underdog (obama) because Americans like the underdog.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 8:18:39 AM PST by lwd
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I may not accept Frum’s reason for blaming Conservative media for Romney’s loss.

That does not mean there are not other reasons, other issues to blame Conservative media for.

Did we not receive here in this venue all the glowing polls and glowing opinions of the polls and harsh conservative critques about the “bad polls” from all over Conservative media??? And which reports were correct; the ones we were sold as he ones to believe, or the ones we were told were all wet?

What suppressed Conservative turnout more? [remember who Conservatives were and were not listening to] Was it the polls and reports that made Conservative voters feel over confident, or the polls and reports that could have made Conservative voters angry, anxious and hungry to prove the bad polls wrong?

You tell me, among the media, who depressed GOP turnout most; to the extent that anyone in any media had a hand in it; the media that Conservatives were not listening to, or the media they were listening to?

Myself, I have never, ever, ever liked over-confident polls and always felt they made the weakest supporters lazy. Remember the distance between the Obama victory [50.1%] and Romney’s loss [49.9%] in Ohio would have been just 0.2% of the voters.

I have often repeated here since Wednesday that it is Romney and his inner circle that needs to look at themselves in the mirror and tell all the pundits making scapegoats for Romney’s loss to folks outside his inner circle to just shut up.

“Conservative media” better start doing the same, and in this case don’t completely reject the message because we don’t like the messenger or his particular reasoning.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 8:31:19 AM PST by Wuli
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Shadow44
David Frum is a Canadian, who went to Yale, and staid over.

He played a part in some of George W. Bush's worst policy errors, as a speech writer. He was an outrageous self-promoter, by all accounts, in College, and has continued as such ever since.

This is not the first, second or even umpteenth time that he has seen fit to arrogantly lecture genuine American Conservatives on their beliefs & tactics. He does not have the intelligence to understand why this is inappropriate in someone claiming to be a Conservative, from another land, here only by our sufferance.

Contrast this Yale upstart with the genuinely Conservative, self-made billionaire from Hungary, who spent an enormous amount of his own money, in the campaign just ended, running very fine minute long TV spots, which offered a real glimpse of the underlying reality.

Further as to Frum, here is a little attempt at humor on that subject, from a few years back: Frum To Haiti Project.

William Flax

29 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:57 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Frump gets high-fives from Joe Scarborough and the Morning Joe crew!


30 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:23 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In a way he's right. Rush kicked off the "war on women" by attacking Fluke as a "slut." He turned her into a cause celeb. It was an unforced error. As a professional with decades of experience he KNEW better.

Add in the 'Tea Party' pushed morons Akin and Mourdock and it was all wrapped neatly in a bow for Obama.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What do other staunch conservatives like Andrew Sullivan, Meghan McCain, Arianna Huffington, Christopher Buckley and Lindsey Graham think?


32 posted on 11/09/2012 10:49:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: newzjunkey

C’mon, that silly fake war on women gig started at one of the primary debates where the question was tossed to Romney by lil georgie s. The entire meme was already layed out and ready to roll.

It’s silly to try and lay blame on anyone who called sandy a slut, guess truth really is gone these days huh?!

Everything is in chaos now, and all by design.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 11:57:28 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: newzjunkey
Add in the 'Tea Party' pushed morons Akin and Mourdock and it was all wrapped neatly in a bow for Obama.
Mourdock was ineptly made, but his comment was nowhere near Akin's. Akin was not a Tea Party anything. HGe won a three-way primary with Tea Party groups supporting his opponents. Stop spreading liberal lies.
34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:17:25 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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