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332,754 Votes Would Have Secured a Romney Victory
Quora ^ | November 8, 2012 | Richard Tabassi

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:59:35 PM PST by CreviceTool

Ran across this on Quora: What is the minimum number of people who would have had to change their vote for Romney to have won?

Richard Tabassi, Renaissance Ape, Occasionally Witty Biped

Around 1/3 of a million in the right states. [1,2,3,4] EC 18:Ohio[1] Romney needed 103,520 people to win EC 29:Florida[2] Romney needed 50,869 people to win EC 13: Virginia[3] Romney Needed 111,985 people to win EC 6: Nevada[4] Romney Needed: 66,380 to win

Total: 332,754 to win Electoral College

There might be a combination that get him there in a shorter amount that I am not seeing yet, will update when I have time to crunch more numbers.

[1]Election results (huffingtonpost.com) Ohio [2]Election results (huffingtonpost.com) Florida [3]Election results (huffingtonpost.com) Virginia [4]Election results (huffingtonpost.com) Nevada


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electoral; romney; votes
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To: CreviceTool

And if the dog hadn’t stopped to poop, he would have caught the rabbit.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 3:03:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: CreviceTool

RINO File.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 3:14:43 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: cripplecreek
The “lazy evangelicals” do their own thinking.

Yeah, they think they would rather have obama.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 3:27:51 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: DoughtyOne
subtract one from Obama and add one vote to Romney in each state

That assumes you can SWITCH an obama to a Romney. Won't happen in most cases. So, you still have to have 300,000+ more Romney votes.

24 posted on 11/08/2012 3:31:40 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: DoughtyOne; All

I calculate the following:

Fl 46,666 diff 29
Va 100,499 13
OH 107,421 18
NH 40,421 4/64 + 206=270

147.415 vote change from obama to Romney


25 posted on 11/08/2012 3:48:04 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: CreviceTool

Few enough votes that there is no doubt in my mind that fraud made the difference.

I think we just witnessed the democrat machine step beyond manufacturing dem votes to also destroying R votes. I know our absentee ballots didn’t make it in PA because I ended up being here and went to check at the polls, but there is much more to it than that.

My first “Oh Sh**” moment of the night was when they put up the early/absentee votes with the 1% precincts reporting under it. OH was listed as having a near 60:40 split. The difference was 18.5% I think which went against everything we had heard. I remembered that Rasmussen repeatedly said this was 40% of the vote and I really panicked. Then I calculated the actual # of votes as being about 20% of 2008s vote. This too made little sense b/c all the estimates were 30-40% but it at least made me think we had a better chance to catch up.

Then when I heard that Romney got less votes than McCain in OH and PA it really made me think that there might have been an effort to destroy the early votes from Republican areas. The reported party breakdown of early votes in OH according to Bloomberg: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-06/the-early-election-results-captured-by-democratic-microtargeters was 50D 36R 14I. The only way this turns into a near 59:40 breakdown is if the Indies went about 70:30 to O or many R’s voted for O which the polls don’t seem to bear out. The only other explanation I can think of is if only the early voting was shown and absentees were much more favorable but not listed ? The actual # reported on Bloomberg was 1,442,536 which was about 27% or so. Perhaps I can find the breakdown of absentee vs early votes somewhere, anyone have that info ?

In surrounding states like IN, KY, WV Romney did much better than McCain by percentage and generated more votes overall. Either the negative/mostly untrue ads suppressed our voters or someone suppressed their actual votes. I just can’t believe Romney/Ryan with 4 yrs of Obama turned out fewer R voters than McCain in these states.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:30 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: Bigjimslade

Maybe a group of concerned citizens could be assembled to inspect the voting anomalies of every county within known swing states?


27 posted on 11/08/2012 4:08:20 PM PST by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above - above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: ADSUM

Okay, very good.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans are still without power.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

To some extent or another, you’re right.

Not every vote is a die-hard vote, but enough where it would be hard to get half.

It would take an extreme situation to do it.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 4:41:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans are still without power.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

You know, when I made that last post, I switched to thinking of the whole body of the vote. Instead we were simply addressing the difference in vote, a small percentage.

Flipping half those is not really impossible.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 4:43:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans are still without power.)
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To: cripplecreek
And our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of those independents. And we have, as Republicans, put ourselves in prison to this whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting great independents. Fine and dandy, but if you squander your base in the process, you haven't a prayer.

The electoral college system means you have to win votes in the swing states. You can pile up large majorities in the states you'd win anyway and it doesn't help you in the electoral college.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 4:47:05 PM PST by x
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To: cripplecreek

Absolutely, 100% correct, as Rush so often is. True to form, the media and other concern trolls are saying that the Republicans keep losing because they keep nominating far right guys like McCain and Romney. Yes, that’s the conventional wisdom that’s gathering out there.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: CreviceTool

Voter fraud. It’s big.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 9:56:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: CreviceTool; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Only 332,754 Votes? A lesson for the future. If every FReeper had voted more than once we would of had it!


34 posted on 11/08/2012 10:00:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: BarbM
.....RUSH BLEW IT. and the lazy “evangelicals’ listened to him.

Please provide the documented evidence the lazy "evangelicals' listened to Rush. Maybe you have rushed to judgment?

35 posted on 11/08/2012 10:06:47 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: BarbM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956981/posts


36 posted on 11/08/2012 10:09:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

And 18 more points would have secured a Jacksonville victory tonight.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 10:10:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: CreviceTool; cripplecreek

>> Total: 332,754 to win Electoral College

>> 448,875 in Michigan.

Half of that if votes for Obama swung in Romney’s favor.

This was a very close election arguably with enough error/fraud to consider it an electoral tie.

Definitely concerned about Obama and Reid, but not as concerned about the confused voters that believe in Obama’s deceitful message and direction.

We need to reconstruct the GOP and fix the quality of information dispensed through conventional media.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 10:15:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: CreviceTool
Ok,here are the statistics. there were 1.8 million absentee ballots requested in Florida,1.81 million in Ohio,741,500 in Nevada and I couldn't find Virginia numbers.These votes won't be counted until around the 17th so they must be guarded very carefully or they will surely disappear!
39 posted on 11/09/2012 4:07:40 AM PST by makersmk2013
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To: little jeremiah

The dems only care about the swing states that both parties need to win.

It really didn’t take a lot to take what they needed to win. They were confident it would be done.

We all can sit here and throw blame around, but the dems have it down to an art and we won’t win again unless it is addressed.

My best guess is that we will not win again.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 4:15:41 AM PST by dforest
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