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2012 LIVE Official Recriminations Thread I
11/7/2012 | Sam PAine

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:34 AM PST by sam_paine

Post your "I Told You So" Vanities here!

DON'T Start the 50-millionth Vanity thread!

Find your allies on either side:

In this corner: "Romney RINO wasn't conservative enough to really win Purple PA and Ohio!"

In the other: "The Social Conservatives scared off too many Indiots!"

We can have the bile out here and leave the other threads to sincere discussion. Then the Admins can delete this later when we're all embarrassed of what we've said.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012analysisreligion; 2012electionanalysis; postmortem2012; vanity
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1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:28:40 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine

The polls were right, except for Rassmussen who got every swing state wrong. Not to be trusted anytime soon.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:31:53 AM PST by Skylab
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To: sam_paine

I’ll kick it off!

Resolved: “The majority of people in Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania want a Shining City on the hill, but want it paid for by someone else.”


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:32:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Where are all those people who called those people that took the pre-election polling data seriously Concerned TROLLS?
4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:32:48 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Skylab

We still have John Boehner to kick around, at least!


5 posted on 11/07/2012 4:33:49 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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I don’t think it was ideology as much it was that he was a Mormon Kerry.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:03 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Skylab
The polls were right

It's ok. You can say that now.

It's the end of the "Concerned Troll" era error

7 posted on 11/07/2012 4:35:06 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: sam_paine

Not so much a recrimination, but more a question.

Where’s Dick Morris......you know, Mr. “GOP/Romney tsunami” Morris?

If this election brought one shred of good news, it’s that most likely, he’s finished. No one with even a modicum of sanity will ever take him seriously again.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:29 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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Americans on social programs, including seniors, thought that they would loose some or all of their benefits - the media made sure they were afraid of Paul Ryan.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:32 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: sam_paine

I was so, so, so wrong about the outcome of this election.

I have a few days of figuring out what I missed before I go tooling on the Republicans for what they missed.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:45 AM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: sam_paine

The illegals, fags, feminazis, junkies, drunks, permanent malcontents, etc. outnumber us and that’s it.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:56 AM PST by GOPsterinMA
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To: sam_paine

It was simple: Too many stupid, dependent people who vote.

Meanwhile, look on the bright side. When the economy goes over the cliff and the Middle East goes to hell in a handbasket, Obama will have no one to blame but himself.

Oh, sorry; forgot he’ll still find a way to blame Bush. And Sarah Palin.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:56 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: sam_paine
Requiem for the Croppies

The pockets of our greatcoats full of barley...
No kitchens on the run, no striking camp...
We moved quick and sudden in our own country.
The priest lay behind ditches with the tramp.
A people hardly marching... on the hike...
We found new tactics happening each day:
We'd cut through reins and rider with the pike
And stampede cattle into infantry,
Then retreat through hedges where cavalry must be thrown.
Until... on Vinegar Hill... the final conclave.
Terraced thousands died, shaking scythes at cannon.
The hillside blushed, soaked in our broken wave.
They buried us without shroud or coffin
And in August... the barley grew up out of our grave.

Seamus Heaney

13 posted on 11/07/2012 4:36:56 AM PST by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: tsowellfan; Ravi
Where are all those people who called those people that took the pre-election polling data seriously Concerned TROLLS?

We can deceive ourselves pretty easily.

We watched the Ohio early voting that showed Obama less far ahead than 2008 and took that to mean we were doing great!

14 posted on 11/07/2012 4:37:12 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Skylab

Mason-dixon got it wrong so did Suffolk


15 posted on 11/07/2012 4:37:41 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Skylab

I never want to see Dick Morris face on Fox News ever again.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 4:37:46 AM PST by SteveAustin
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To: Skylab

Frankly, right now the polls are the least of my worries.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 4:37:54 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Revolutions are not born out of success, they are born out of despair)
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To: sam_paine

Romney didn’t:

1. Go after Obama on Benghazi.

2. Didn’t go after Obama and his close ties to Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood.

3. And why are so many politicians afraid to call an opponent a liar when their opponent lies.

For now. The GOP controlled house needs to eliminate every program supported by Democrats. Lets face it, giving Democrat voters will never lead to more votes for Republicans. Defund Education, the EPA, Commerce, Homeland Security, HHS, almost the entire Transportation department; and, most importantly defund Obamacare. Defund all government subsidies for all agriculture programs. Defund food stamps and federal unemployment benefits beyond 26 weeks.

Obama claims elections have consequences, and the GOP holds the purse strngs.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 4:38:30 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: sam_paine
No recriminations here. A liberal Republican lost to a Marxist Democrat. I'll go back to what I said at a meeting of my company's senior management a few months ago: This was one of the most inconsequential elections in recent memory (despite all the talk radio nonsense indicating otherwise), since neither candidate could spell out a clear plan for dealing with this country's massive structural flaws.

By my last count, Obama got 3 million fewer votes in 2012 than George W. Bush got in 2004. In fact, Obama's 2012 vote total was nearly identical to John Kerry's losing vote total in 2004 ... even though there are substantially more registered voters today.

Obama won narrow races in several key states. My quick review of the results last night indicates that North Carolina was the only state to change from one side to the other between 2008 and 2012. Like I said, this was not a very consequential election, and I suspect an awful lot of voters knew it a long time ago.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: sam_paine; All

I don’t want to hear nonsense blaming Romney for one thing.

He was a good campaigner. I cried last night because while he may not be a right-winger, he is a good man and would have been an excellent leader.

I am depressed this morning, but we will survive.

Those who say America is done because a president won reelection by a smaller majority than the first time (the first time ever...) need to get a clue and have some Reagan optimism.

In addition, those who blame Christie are silly. Sandy hurt Romney, but not enough to lose.

Parties and trends are cyclical.

The GOP MUST find a way to get more votes from minorities and women, however.

Relying on the white vote to carry the day is no longer going to work. Our party must expand or it will eventually start losing because of that.

In this case, it largely did so....while our side turned out, so did the Dems.

Luckily the House is good. But, say goodbye to a conservative SCOTUS.

God bless you, Mr. Romney and your hard-fought campaign.

I am sorry I can’t call you my president today.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:49 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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