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Legalized Pot and Homosexual Marriage

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:11:53 PM PST by TigerClaws

Gay marriage passed in Maine and Maryland. Close in Washington and Minnesota.

CO voted to legalize weed. Washington too.


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KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; drugwar; marijuana; notbreakingnews; rockymountainhigh; vanity; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: manc

I agree.

These liberaltarians cannot be considered part of the conservative movement any more.


141 posted on 11/07/2012 12:24:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: manc

I dont care, there is a difference between THC being traceable and it having an effect on you. I recall it not having any effect on me after an hour or so.I will reiterate my previous point, smoking a joint does not make one a pothead just as having a drink does not make one an alcoholic.
In any case, why should I care what my neighbour smokes? It certainly does not affect me, his drinking definately affects me more than smoking any amount would.


142 posted on 11/07/2012 1:27:38 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: TigerClaws
Washington probably will pass it, for those who's familiar with the issue.
143 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:23 PM PST by Toddcc
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To: hannibaal

I’ve heard that many timnes, that it does not affect you , pity I;ve seen the opposite and many hwo said it were affected but were doped up


144 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:25 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I guess you are insinuating that I am “doped” up? I assure you I am not, and please why dont you elaborate on the experience about seeing the opposite.
I dont understand why you feel the need for the government to police you and tell you what to do. Smoking a joint causes practically no harm to other people, whereas getting drunk certainly does; so if you are going to be a crusader for the issue then why dont you start campaigning to bring back the prohibition.
If it caused other people harm like alcohol does I would understand why your panties are in a twist. The fact is that is it less harmful to other people than alcohol by quite a large margin. The fact that it is illegal allows criminals to profit off of it and causes violence as well as pointless arrests of users.
Please no more insinuations that I am high, and whatever implications you think that entails. If it were so debilitating I would not be as well educated as I am or earning as much as I am at my young age.
I’ll leave it at that.


145 posted on 11/07/2012 6:18:28 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: hannibaal

not insinuated anyhting, you took it wrong


146 posted on 11/07/2012 6:21:00 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Cap74

True conservatives win elections if they are not destroyed by the liberaltarians and the GOP establishment.

It’s a simple truth but one that is very hard to accept by those who want to lower moral standards.


147 posted on 11/08/2012 6:29:52 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

So you voted Republican. Fine.

But there are many liberaltarians that did not vote for the GOP but voted for Gary Johnson.

I can see you are trying to turn this into a legal-drugs debate, and that is not the issue we were discussing.

The issue is the impact that supporting liberal social policies has on electing otherwise conservative candidates.

As I said, Liberaltarians (not conservative libertarians) are closer to the liberal DNC than they are to conservative Republicans. They help to ensure that leftists Dims get elected.

Your argument about alcohol is fallacious because it is equivocation. Sugary drinks COULD lead to societal decline. Anything could. The argument against legalized drugs is not in equivocating them with alcohol, because they are not the same. Liberaltarians support not only the legalization of pot but the complete deregulation of selling all drugs as well as the manufacture and distribution of all drugs. Where did that come from? A freeper right here on this board.

Alcohol can be a problem. No I don’t want it to be illegal. But that does not mean that I must therefore want to legalize all forms or recreational substances. Crack and heroin, how they impact the user, and how a society of crack and heroin addicts poses a far greater threat to society than does casual drinking. They can’t be compared one against the other because of the very volatility of the substances involved.

I’ll make a gentleman’s bet that within 10 years, there will be a fight to make some of the prescription-only medication that is also used for recreational purposes over-the-counter.

But as I said, this is not the discussion or the point I was making.

If these issues are important to people, they will vote for candidates who promise the legalization of drugs. Or they will NOT vote for those candidates who run on a platform that it’s probably a bad idea to have heroin sold out the liquor store. In either case, those voters will be electing for the most part leftists and socialists, because libertarians at this point cannot win elections, so they will be helping the DNC and other leftist parties.


148 posted on 11/08/2012 6:44:29 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Respectfully, we disagree on what a true conservative is. I simply wish to conserve the Constitution, as written and intended, as strictly as possible. I think we'd both agree that doing so would be a good thing and would get rid of a lot of the nonsense the Left has been able to impose through big government.

If you re-read my postings about drug laws, you'll see that I do not in any way want to lower moral standards. I simply want the government to be massively reduced in its scope and power. Yes, this would result in a few things being technically legal that you or I might not morally support being so. It would also totally dismantle the federal government monopoly on education, abortion law, gun laws, business law and now health care.

In the name of 'morality' you seem to be missing the larger picture. I suggest that Libertarianism is not 'liberal' at all. I do agree that the GOP establishment is too far to the left and loses elections by being 'liberalism light'. I want the GOP to demolish the Statist monster, not slightly bend it towards its own aims. The Left controls our schools, our culture, and the very narrative of national discourse and the daily bureaucracies that regulate and enforce political correctness and federal control over our lives. I support dismantling ALL of that. Freedom of association, freedom of religion, freedom of speech - restored fully. That is radical, and I consider it to be more conservative and well to the right of the current Republican or Evangelical conservative establishment.

Conservatism should be about checking and reducing government power and championing the freedoms our Founders so wisely recognized and fought for. Let our morality be enforced by our words, our example, our churches, our media. Give us the freedom to take the country back from a government-imposed minority viewpoint and orthodoxy. If we could somehow return to being a truly free nation, I would gladly accept the few things that would be made legal that I disagree with.

149 posted on 11/08/2012 8:11:53 AM PST by Cap74 (You can disagree with me. You can attack me. Do not lie to me.)
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To: Cap74
Conservatism should be about checking and reducing government power and championing the freedoms our Founders so wisely recognized and fought for. Let our morality be enforced by our words, our example, our churches, our media.

Well said!

150 posted on 11/09/2012 8:14:58 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Teacher317

Dolt? LOL!

Breaking the law in front of federal law enforcement, is no joke- FOOL!

Teacher, huh? Why does this not surprise me. You “teachers” have been doing a great job so far.

Wanting to smoke dope. Calling anyone who likes law enforcement a “moron’. Would you not feel more welcome over @ TheHuffingtonPost? “Teach”?

But thank you. We all need clowns like you.


151 posted on 11/19/2012 10:20:26 PM PST by Mtner77
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