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Why we won’t kill the Imperial System
Mobile Hydraulic Tips ^ | November 2, 2012 | Paul Heney

Posted on 11/05/2012 2:14:59 PM PST by null and void

Back in grade school, we were told that the Imperial System was a thing of the past, that eventually we’d be living the Metric System life, with all it’s base-10 logic built right in. We’d be just like the rest of the world. But those predictions have proven about as accurate as the flying cars and moon colonies that we all imagined we’d be enjoying in the year 2012.

Occasionally, the issue bubbles up and people argue back and forth about why we haven’t gone Metric, but I think it’s all about inertia. There would be a huge intellectual cost in moving to a new system—training ourselves to think of temperatures in Celsius when we’re leaving home and trying to decide on whether to grab a jacket. Straining to remember what kilometers per liter really comes down to, when we’re used to a lifetime of miles per gallon. Attempting to determine whether you’re losing enough weight, as you stare at the scale showing a strange number of kilograms.

While there are economic costs—heck, just think of the signage issues on our roads—they should be lower today than they would have been a generation ago. Many consumer products in this digital age already allow us to toggle between Imperial and Metric units. And the prevalence of smartphones means that no one has an excuse not to have a conversion app (or at least a calculator) on them at virtually all times.

What this issue comes down to is, as I said, inertia. It’s laziness. No one wants to be the generation that has to juggle two systems in their heads all the time. If we switched today, my kids would grow up pretty much thinking in Metric and would have no problem. But I feel like I’d forever be doing that calculation in my head. Even if I knew 28° C was a nice warm summer day, I think I’d always be converting it back to 82° F just to make sure I knew exactly how warm it was, based on my past experiences. We don’t want to be the ones straddling the two worlds, dealing with parts in both sizes or wondering how to deal with machinery that still had Imperial components that were no longer allowed to be manufactured.

Besides, who has the guts to push an idea like this forward in the country today? If Republicans championed the cause, Democrats would rail against it. And vice versa. And unfortunately, engineers, scientists and the like don’t have the kind of lobby that would be needed to get politicians interested. Even a public relations disaster like losing the Mars Climate Orbiter (due to a conversion mishap) didn’t move the needle on fully switching to Metric. So I guess I’ll just wait with you for that long-off day when we get the first flying car—and wonder what kind of miles per gallon that thing will get.


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To: null and void

I lost 28.6601 pounds this year (13 kilograms). :)


81 posted on 11/05/2012 3:09:56 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (WINNING IS EVERYTHING!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The Babylonians used 24 hours a day, 60 minutes per hour. WTF? That's divisible by... what? It's great if you are an idiot savant.

12. Which is divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12.

The 60 which is 5 times 12 is divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20,30 and 60. A system based on 10s is divisible by 1,2,5 and 10 only.

So a third of a hour is 20 minutes. On a tens system a third of a hour is 33.33333333333333333 Ad infinitum.

82 posted on 11/05/2012 3:10:33 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: null and void

As the story goes, in the 1960’s, the Russian space agency worked in the metric system NASA in standard inches. The reason? NASA wanted to reach the Moon first


83 posted on 11/05/2012 3:10:45 PM PST by Figment
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To: Proud2BeRight
Bigger chests! I like that. I'll take a 100cm over a 36 in.
84 posted on 11/05/2012 3:11:25 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Spktyr
One practical problem for metric-system-only people is that they end up being unable to do fractions.

Well, they do call our system the "fractional measurement system"....I guess you could always freak them out by asking for about a quarter meter of fuel line.

85 posted on 11/05/2012 3:11:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: null and void
I hate buying two sets of end wrenches and sockets to work on my FORD.

Just stop it.

86 posted on 11/05/2012 3:11:52 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Mr. Lucky
In my line of work, an acre is 43,560 square feet, or 160 square rods, or 4 rods by 40 rods, or one chain by 10 chains, or maybe a rod by a half mile. What could be easier than that?

Or 0.1 square furlongs. Wait, one tenth? That's looking suspiciously metric.

87 posted on 11/05/2012 3:11:56 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: null and void

Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile.


88 posted on 11/05/2012 3:12:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yarddog
There is one part of American cars which have always been metric. Does anyone know what it is?

14 and 18mm spark plugs.

89 posted on 11/05/2012 3:14:01 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: null and void

If you’ve ever tried using the metric system in the machine shop, you’ll realize how unwieldy it is. My company makes parts for a who’s who of the automotive world. The parts are all metric, but the blueprints and tolerances are all in inches


90 posted on 11/05/2012 3:15:02 PM PST by Figment
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To: Army Air Corps
Sorry, it isn’t “Metric” money, just decimal currency.

And "metric" measurement is just decimal measurement.

91 posted on 11/05/2012 3:15:29 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: null and void

as an engineer, i’ve always found the American system far more intuitive. to me slug screams mass better than gram (which sounds a bit weak to me). inch, inch worm. better than centimeter. force, pound. much better imagery than newton (although that’s a fine name for force also).

that being said, there’s a better reason to stay with our units. some european units are born of socialist european thinking. science by bureaucrat.

i also like that our units are taken from the names individual scientists who did the actual science (the unit points the student to the scientist who did the science) or directly from free thinking individuals’ practical experience, or individual entrepreneurs applying their science directly to free enterprise itself (e.g., edison, tesla, etc). i’ll take our units anyday over the supposedly “easier” and more “coherent” european system.


92 posted on 11/05/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by dadfly
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To: JRandomFreeper
The Babylonians used 24 hours a day, 60 minutes per hour. WTF? That's divisible by... what? It's great if you are an idiot savant.

Divisible by 3. I'm not sure it matters with time, but the British system of 12 pennies in a shilling and 20 shillings in a pound meant the pound was evenly divisible by 3. It makes for a lot of math, but it's not bad if you have two partners and want to divide your earnings up equally.

Britain also had a unit, the guinea, equal to 21 shillings. I guess it was divisible by 7, but more importantly, professionals could charge in guineas, rather than pounds, and pick up an extra shilling for every 20 charged.

93 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:02 PM PST by x
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To: PGR88

I see the metrics by which you measure the worth of a sonnet.


94 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:04 PM PST by Redcitizen (A good pun is its own reword.)
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To: null and void

I work with CAD ... My computer doesn’t care, my software doesn’t care ... either way ... couple of keystrokes and I can design it either way ... it’s ME ... I think in Feet and Inches but with a little effort I can visualize Metric and just have to double check clearances and ratios (the ratios are mostly aesthetic anyway)

TT


95 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes that is it.

Spark plug thread size has always been metric.

I suppose some engine somewhere has used SAE but for the most part spark plugs have always been metric thread.


96 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:28 PM PST by yarddog
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To: null and void

I use 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 inch drive sets.

Anyone use metric drive sets?

(snicker)


97 posted on 11/05/2012 3:19:58 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes that is it.

Spark plug thread size has always been metric.

I suppose some engine somewhere has used SAE but for the most part spark plugs have always been metric thread.


98 posted on 11/05/2012 3:20:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: redfreedom

I was also visiting in Canada last month and was amused by their systems of measurement. The thermostat where we stayed was in °C while the oven was °F.

Lumber is regular american 2X4s. And drywall was 4X8 foot sheets. I’m assuming that this means that the studs are spaced in inches.

I got the local newspaper to look up the tide tables and the tide heights were in feet.


99 posted on 11/05/2012 3:21:32 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: null and void

The Systeme International is the default system of measurements and weights in science.

We are reluctant to change because tradition has worked for us but the changeover will eventually happen - if we want to trade with the rest of the world.


100 posted on 11/05/2012 3:21:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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