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"It could Happen Tomorrow- NYC Hurricane" Weather Channel
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Posted on 10/29/2012 3:55:22 PM PDT by SMGFan
From the Weather Channel: It Could Happen Tomorrow takes a close look at unbelievable yet possible acts of nature, which could spell disaster for cities across America. Part drama, part science and part history, It Could Happen Tomorrow searches the past for clues to theoretical weather events still to come and explores their potential impact on our modern world.
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To: cripplecreek
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posted on
10/29/2012 5:25:17 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(Soli Deo Gloria!)
To: annieokie
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posted on
10/29/2012 5:32:46 PM PDT
by
Drago
To: justa-hairyape
Everything built inland is for 90mph 3-sec gusts up to 120mph 3sec gusts just along the coast for all bldgs up to about 33ft tall. Taller bldgs and those closer to flat land and water have more stringent codes.
The crane should not have failed if built per IBC codes, if its a union job, who knows.
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posted on
10/29/2012 5:45:52 PM PDT
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: Drago
Yes, I have been switching back and forth. Best cam is in Times Square though for visability.
ALL: All the NYC cams are on that website.
I swear, trying to post on FR these days, is like trying to be the lucky 9th caller to some radio contest. Punch/repunch/repunch one time you may get lucky, oops ERROR on page.
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posted on
10/29/2012 5:53:56 PM PDT
by
annieokie
(O)
To: cripplecreek
Saw red sky clouding early this morning, meaning storm on its way.
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posted on
10/29/2012 5:53:58 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: justa-hairyape
Shoot. 50 mph wind is just a bad inconvenient golf day in OKLA.,don’t stop anybody though. Just have to adjust.
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posted on
10/29/2012 6:01:09 PM PDT
by
annieokie
(O)
To: SamAdams76
Yeah, I'm planning to fly South on Wed. morning, and even though Delta was offering to let folks change flights without charge, I decided to just keep my reservation. Looks like it will have cleared up by Wed. am, in time to get out. WooHoo!
And it looks like the kiddy-winks will have a Halloween this year, unlike last year, when most towns cancelled it because of the piles of snow, and folks without power. We bought candy, just in case!
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posted on
10/29/2012 6:15:08 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: Cvengr
“if its a union job”
IF it’s a union job...we’re talking about NYC. Is there any other kind in construction? If it wasn’t union that is the reason it’s falling, sabotage.
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posted on
10/29/2012 6:51:13 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
To: SMGFan
Wait till the CORPS comes to the rescue. The tunnels will cave in. The Corps and unions a match made in hell...maybe they are the real mafia.
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posted on
10/29/2012 6:53:51 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
To: justa-hairyape
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posted on
10/29/2012 7:04:33 PM PDT
by
rurgan
(give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
To: justa-hairyape
The main concerns all along for this storm were surge and widespread power outages. Both came to pass - and NYC, Long Island and the Jersey Shore got hammered by surge. This is at least a 20 billion dollar disaster and could end up being the second-worst hurricane damage in US history.
So please give it a rest.
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posted on
10/30/2012 6:00:50 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: dirtboy
A lot of damage here. F off delusional psychotics downplaying the damage. Millions wo power.
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posted on
10/30/2012 6:10:39 AM PDT
by
GlockThe Vote
(The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
To: dirtboy
Irene just last year, was estimated to cost over 15 Billion and millions were without power. So Sandy was not unique because we had almost the exact situation just last year with respect to damage and power loss. What was unique was the combining of the two storms. Just pointing out that the hysteria about Sandy is just that, hysteria. The damage is bad, but not unprecedented.
Hurricane Irene one year later: Storm cost $15.8
To: justa-hairyape
First of all, you can pretty much take initial damage estimates and double them. Second, Sandy was a hurricane until just before landfall. I watched the sat photos and microwave passes, it developed a distinct eye Monday. And that in turn, IMO, changed the nature of the storm when it hit land. It was expected to be transitioned to an extratropical storm a day before landfall, which means the higher winds aloft would be brought down to the ground and the storm would be strengthened by baroclinic processes, and we would have seen a lot more power outages further inland. I don't think that happened much, the landfall progression of winds were much more typical of a tropical system and by the time the worst of the storm reached where I am, in NW Montgomery County in PA, the winds were not that bad. And third, the damage was very different between Irene and Sandy. Irene was mainly an inland flooding event. Sandy was a coastal flooding event - because it apporoached the coast head-on instead of with a glancing blow. The real wildcard for damage estimates is going to be how much repair the subway system will need because of saltwater immersion. They just don't know, but I saw a report that estimated it would take $55 billion to fix the system if it flooded. Now, that would probably be the entire system, but I think it's a good change that the subway system damage will add a fair chunk to the final damage bill.
So in a way, they got part of the forecast wrong. Baroclinic factors did not juice up the storm the amount they envisioned. But it was a tropical system and a hurricane up until just before landfall.
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posted on
10/30/2012 12:47:07 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: dirtboy
Agree with all that, but Sandy had no back side when it hit land. Was having trouble wrapping up its west end which was being stripped away and taken north by the cold front. Then when it sped up just before landfall, it could not pull anything from the west side at all. There was no moisture to speak of on its SE side when landing. My guess is when the cold low pressure joined up with Sandy, it pulled Sandy in and sped up its forward motion basically ripping the Hurricane/Tropical Storm apart. So the joining of the storms actually made Sandy less powerful, which was the opposite of what they predicted. Forecasters forgot that cold air is more dense then warm air.
To: justa-hairyape
Having stated that, it was obvious that north and north east of landfall was going to experience record flooding. That was always a given, if it took the path that it took. Speeding up its forward motion, which was not predicted, actually lessened the severity of the flooding. IE - The storm had less time to apply its pressure and wind forces to water motion.
To: justa-hairyape
That was dry air wrapping in. The cold front was still out in central PA.
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posted on
10/30/2012 1:33:34 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: justa-hairyape
The increased forward speed was a two-edged sword. As a result, the storm made landfall at the Jersey Shore before the Monday evening high tide. But the wind around the back of the eye remnant ran right into NYC at high tide and helped pump the tide there to record levels.
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posted on
10/30/2012 1:44:04 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
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