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GALLUP: ROMNEY OPENS SIX POINT LEAD, 51-45 Plus, Triage: Obama Pulling Out of NC, FL
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 10/17/2012 | Ace

Posted on 10/17/2012 10:44:31 AM PDT by TBBT

But Obama is now retreating.

Via The Meatball:

Politico story on obama pulling from NC http://politi.co/R4uygx

I'm not even going to hyperlink that. Politico can go right into my sex binder.

Obama pac cancel in florida we heard about

Better Romney # in CO and VA

And now this from politicalwire: "Obama circling wagons in OH IA NV NH"

Er... I think he's triaging. Because if the last part concedes the aforementioned states...

(Excerpt) Read more at minx.cc ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; obama; polls
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To: HamiltonJay
Yet, because of the current ongoing failure of polling to work the way it used to it's possible to get CA, MD and TX polls that show a TIE.

Obviously we all have our own idea on how all three of those states should show up, and it's not a tie ~ far from it in fact ~ so, what happens if we get polls telling us that exact same thing ~ a TIE ~ over the next week or so? Would you advise the parties to shore up their base with heavy advertising expenditures there?

41 posted on 10/17/2012 12:00:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The automated polls are especially fun. There, I can indicate that I'm a black, female, Muslim who thinks Obama's economic policies suck.

It's fun! I recommend the practice to all FReepers!

42 posted on 10/17/2012 12:01:23 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Hugin

PA is winnable, but its the toughest of the 4 to win... And for Romney to WIN PA he has to be on the air here, he just has to.. and so far he’s just not. I haven’t seen any ads for either party on TV in months... well take that back I did see an Obama ad last night while watching TBS.. so I don’t know if that was a national buy or a PA targeted ad.. but that was first Political ad for either party I’ve seen here in quite a while.

Romney isn’t at present fighting for PA... the groundwork is in place to where it could be won with a hard fight, but with no airtime, it isn’t going to happen.. However even without air time I don’t think Obama will carry PA by more than a few points at best. Romney could pull out a shocker and win PA even without airtime, but if that happens, Obama is going to lose a hell of a lot of states no one is even talking about.


43 posted on 10/17/2012 12:01:23 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

So true. The media always talks about how Ohio is so critical to Republican chances, when in fact it is do or die for Obama. We have multiple paths to victory.


44 posted on 10/17/2012 12:02:48 PM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: IndyTiger
i regularly never answer the phone unless Caller ID shows it's someone i want to talk to. At one time I had poll calls from 5 well known polling companies.

I don't believe that was a KOINKYDINK!

45 posted on 10/17/2012 12:05:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HamiltonJay
Romney isn’t at present fighting for PA... the groundwork is in place to where it could be won with a hard fight, but with no airtime, it isn’t going to happen.. However even without air time I don’t think Obama will carry PA by more than a few points at best. Romney could pull out a shocker and win PA even without airtime, but if that happens, Obama is going to lose a hell of a lot of states no one is even talking about.

Romney's people may be thinking the same thing. If they win PA, it means that they've won so many other states that PA isn't needed. So either way, it doesn't pay to invest in PA.

On election night, if Romney wins PA or NJ, you might as well go to bed, the election is over, Romney won.

46 posted on 10/17/2012 12:06:27 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: HamiltonJay
No way in hell Ohio is going for Obama if PA is polling 2-3 points. Not only will Ohio go Romney, its going to go Romney by a 4-5 point margin MINIMAL.

I can tell you that in Democrat-controlled Cuyahoga county (Cleveland), I am seeing nearly a 50-50 split of Obama and Romney signs and bumperstickers. Much different than in 2008. Hopefully the trend holds.

47 posted on 10/17/2012 12:10:35 PM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: Williams
Unless Romney does break out in some of the other states he isn’t expected to carry, we could lose this thing in Ohio.
LOL! If Romney is up 3% on election day (much less the 6% Gallup is tracking today) Romney will win the EC with plenty room to spare. Remember when Bush beat Kerry by 3%, he ended up winning the EC comfortably.
48 posted on 10/17/2012 12:10:57 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: RabidBartender

Virginia’s also looking pretty good of late. Last four polls show Romney ahead by anywhere from 1 to 3%. CO is trending toward Romney as well. Further, one FReeper cited a poll Monday that showed Romney leading by 5% in the Maine 2 area (ME divides its EVs), which would award him another EV. New Hampshire and Iowa are also possible “gets,” bumping his total to 268.

That leaves:

Michigan (16)
Nevada (6)
Ohio (18)
Pennsylvania (20)
Wisconsin (10)

So, Obama will attempt to erect a final defensive firewall around the rest. Ohio or Nevada are the most likely to fall among those.


49 posted on 10/17/2012 12:17:42 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Dear Tennessean4Bush,

“Remember when Bush beat Kerry by 3%, he ended up winning the EC comfortably.”

Not quite.

President Bush won 286 electoral votes. He needed 270. If he'd have lost Ohio (which was fairly close), he'd have lost the election.


sitetest

50 posted on 10/17/2012 12:18:41 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

If Gore had won his “home state” of Tennessee, Florida would not have mattered.


51 posted on 10/17/2012 12:28:55 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Michael Berry, Houston radio talk show host, is organizing a group of about 1000 people to go in a caravan to Florida the week before election to help transport people to the polls. Not sure if he’s taking Shirley Q Liquor with him or not. Not sure Florida is ready for this non-PC group! BTW, these people are all paying their own expenses.

Too bad some other conservative state doesn’t do the same in one of the northern areas.


52 posted on 10/17/2012 12:37:17 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just drove through the moonbat strongholds of Wellesley and Needham, and the Brown signs are edging out the Warren signs. Brown coat tails could win it for Romney.

Not that it matters, but it would be sweet. Zero won’t win MA by more than five.


53 posted on 10/17/2012 12:40:29 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: VanDeKoik
DVRs and Hulu are the best things to ever happen to election season.

Never had to see one Obama ad.


Not so fast, Planned Parenthood PAC ran an anti-Romney ad on either Hulu.com or cbs.com (my kids watch Bat Masterson on Hulu and I Love Lucy on CBS.COM, and they pick some of the MOST INAPPROPRIATE commercials, especially for their "original" programming. We have to minimize and mute.)
54 posted on 10/17/2012 2:00:27 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

It must be that I watch just boring documentaries there. All I’ve been getting are Clorox and Nationwide Insurance ads.

Lucky me!


55 posted on 10/17/2012 2:03:53 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
All I’ve been getting are Clorox and Nationwide Insurance ads.

Odd. We get lots of Mr. Clean and Geico ads.
56 posted on 10/17/2012 2:05:44 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: muawiyah
Imagine a poll where only Dick Morris, lazmataz, J Robinson, muawiyah, etc. answer!

I'm part of the 91%. I PURPOSEFULLY give no info in order to mess with their MoE.

I've turned down Nielsen, TWICE.
57 posted on 10/17/2012 2:10:43 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: muawiyah
Imagine a poll where only Dick Morris, lazmataz, J Robinson, muawiyah, etc. answer!

I was about to post to ask how you happened to misspell 'Lazamataz,' yet managed to get 'muawiyah,' which I don't even know how to say, much less spell without looking at it, correct. But, then I figured it out.

And, I don't mean that as a slight on your spelling, but as something that I found amusing. Like when you see someone being overly cruel calling someone names for messing something up in a post and you are about to hit 'abuse' or post to fuss at them, and then you realize they are posting to themselves.

58 posted on 10/17/2012 2:28:05 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Hope isn't a strategy.)
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To: sitetest; Tennessean4Bush
Our Presidential elections are always a lot closer than we remember ~.

Given the horrendous and disastrous performance of the Democrats over the last 4 years (Actually, the last 6 going back to what they did after winning 2006) i believe the number of voters in 2012 will drop off the planet ~ at least compared to 2008.

We will see the biggest drop among Democrats ~ no way Obamugabe can get that same 69 million he got last time, and he could drop as low as the 2010 tally ~ about 39 million voters! At the same time Republican voters may well not show up in the numbers seen for "W"'s second term, but if there are as many as in the McCain debacle they could well outnumber the Democrats in enough states with enough electoral votes to put Romney in the White House, but it'll look a lot more like 2000 than anyone wants unless Democrats are as dispirited this year as in 2010.

I kind of think the lack of campaign signs in lawns may actually mean something ~ not that the signs weren't printed, but nobody wants to put an Obama sign in the lawn!

http://www.usconstitution.net/elections.html provides the popular vote by candidate for every election. The 1932 election may possibly be repeated ~ there the 1928 Republican landslide was followed by the 1932 Roosevelt landslide. There wasn't any huge additional turnout in 1932 either. Republicans lost about 6 million voters and Democrats gained about 7 million voters ~ comparing those two elections.

59 posted on 10/17/2012 2:53:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: skeeter
Hoover, who'd won in a landslide in 1928, got PA, New England and DE in 1932.

Stuff can happen!

60 posted on 10/17/2012 2:58:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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