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GALLUP: ROMNEY OPENS SIX POINT LEAD, 51-45 Plus, Triage: Obama Pulling Out of NC, FL
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 10/17/2012 | Ace

Posted on 10/17/2012 10:44:31 AM PDT by TBBT

But Obama is now retreating.

Via The Meatball:

Politico story on obama pulling from NC http://politi.co/R4uygx

I'm not even going to hyperlink that. Politico can go right into my sex binder.

Obama pac cancel in florida we heard about

Better Romney # in CO and VA

And now this from politicalwire: "Obama circling wagons in OH IA NV NH"

Er... I think he's triaging. Because if the last part concedes the aforementioned states...

(Excerpt) Read more at minx.cc ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; obama; polls
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To: taildragger

Good luck with that. PA coming through for Romney and Smith knocking the blithering idiot Casey pup out of the Senate are *far* more likely than any Republican success in Michgan.

The tide in Michgan right now is anti-R to the degree that a great conservative rep like freshman Dan Benishek stands a good chance of losing the U.P. district to that slimeball McDowell or whatever his name is, and the McCotter fiasco may yet cost us that seat. Plus it seems that Hoekstra has been all but invisible, and isn’t anywhere remotely close in the polls — even reputable polls.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 11:20:45 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: VanDeKoik
DVRs and Hulu are the best things to ever happen to election season.
Never had to see one Obama ad.

On Hulu Plus I've been forced (mind you, you can't skip ads) to see THE EXACT SAME Tim Kaine for VA Senate ad on everything I've watched on it, for the past month.

22 posted on 10/17/2012 11:20:45 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: HiTech RedNeck
At this rate Obama may have little else left but Crazyfornia.

Half of me hopes CA remains a lock for him. The only evidence we have here that Obama is even running is the occasional stealth trip to Hollywood and Woodside to rake in contributions.

23 posted on 10/17/2012 11:26:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: TBBT

Can anyone substantiate this Florida claim? The blog doesn’t link to anything to back that up and I can’t seem to find anything on it.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 11:32:08 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: muawiyah

Sorry but you lost me on your discussion of the democrats shoring up California, and the republicans Texas.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 11:36:37 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

I start with the assumption that Romney will win FL, NC and VA. That means he needs to win OH plus any of NH, MI, WI, IA, CO or NV. Alteratively he could lose OH, and win any three of MI, WI, IA and CO, or any four of all of them. And if he wins PA, he only needs any one of the others.

Personally I think there’s a good chance Romney will sweep them all including PA.


26 posted on 10/17/2012 11:37:55 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Williams

I start with the assumption that Romney will win FL, NC and VA. That means he needs to win OH plus any of NH, MI, WI, IA, CO or NV. Alteratively he could lose OH, and win any three of MI, WI, IA and CO, or any four of all of them. And if he wins PA, he only needs any one of the others.

Personally I think there’s a good chance Romney will sweep them all including PA.


27 posted on 10/17/2012 11:38:12 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If Romney were to win the popular vote, would CA delegates go to Romney?


28 posted on 10/17/2012 11:40:48 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!r)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Romney needs to open more fronts in Michigan, PA and Wis.

Romney needs to secure Ohio. If FL and VA are going to Romney, Ohio looks to be the key.

29 posted on 10/17/2012 11:41:33 AM PDT by sargon
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To: RabidBartender

Maine could provide an electoral vote or two as well for Romney.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 11:46:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Williams
The point is that once the response rate on polls drops low enough you'll have only true believers even answering polls. There are about equal numbers on both sides.

Getting back to the first point ~ why political campaign managers watch polls ~ if the polls are no good they'd be stupid to do what they usually do when polls change.

The Dems will get Maryland and California no matter what the polls show ~ and that's mostly because the polls are useless. No sense at all Republicans spending a lot of money in either place ~ just be a waste of money.

HIstory is my guide on those two places.

31 posted on 10/17/2012 11:48:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TBBT

You really want to piss Liberals off? Tell them Romney can win without Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin. Even better, it’s 100% true! I believe Romney will potentially win two of those three, but he’ll get enough electorate votes without them! Mitt will win the battleground states of virginia, florida, nc, nevada, colorado, and he’ll at least split NH’s electorate votes since they’re split by congressional district.


32 posted on 10/17/2012 11:49:06 AM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: TBBT

IA and OH are not going to Go for Obama... The campaign has been in self denial from day one. Obama won’t ever pull out of OH, no matter how bad it is, since he can’t win without it, but he’s not going to win it.

If PA is polling at a few points, Obama has no chance in hell at OHIO.. Philly EASILY tilts PA 5-8 Points Dem... Ohio doesn’t have that deal with overcoming that dead weight. No way in hell Ohio is going for Obama if PA is polling 2-3 points. Not only will Ohio go Romney, its going to go Romney by a 4-5 point margin MINIMAL.


33 posted on 10/17/2012 11:49:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: kabar

Maine, by default is either 4-0 or 3-1. It cannot break another way.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 11:51:54 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: muawiyah
People no longer answer the phone unless they want to do so. PEW reported that by the time you get an adult on the phone, and find out they are willing to answer a polster, you are down to just 9% of the people you called. At that level you no longer have a statistically valid poll and there's little meaningful information you can get out of it.

And then there's people like me. I go out of my way to answer poll calls, just so I can tell them I'm a Democrat who hates Obama, just to mess with them.

35 posted on 10/17/2012 11:54:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: muawiyah

No one even pays attention to Cali and MD.. seriously, you’d have to have such a fundamental shift of the electorate that it just isn’t going to happen.

Just like No one cares about TX.. you know its going to go red by a large margin.


36 posted on 10/17/2012 11:54:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: xuberalles

Yes, the path is possible without OH.. it doesn’t exist for Obama without it...

Its a tougher path but its possible.

Obama has NO path but through OHIO


37 posted on 10/17/2012 11:56:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Crazyfornia and maybe...Taxechussets. And of course, D.C.


38 posted on 10/17/2012 11:56:53 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: PapaBear3625

Following the PEW analysis that’d mean you are at least 20 times more important today than you would have been 30 years ago.


39 posted on 10/17/2012 11:57:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
PEW reported that by the time you get an adult on the phone, and find out they are willing to answer a polster, you are down to just 9% of the people you called.

True. I've hung up on several pollsters the past few months. Just no time or interest for inane questions.

40 posted on 10/17/2012 12:00:11 PM PDT by IndyTiger
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