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Jeff Greenfield is a Yahoo! News columnist and the host of “Need to Know” on PBS. A five-time Emmy winner, he has spent more than 30 years on network television, including time as the senior political correspondent for CBS News, the senior analyst for CNN, and the political and media analyst for ABC News. His most recent book is "Then Everything Changed: Stunning Alternate Histories of American Politics."

1 posted on 10/17/2012 1:04:27 AM PDT by ETL
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Get a room!


2 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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how does anyone figure obama won ..he couldnt even win with the moderator debating for him.


3 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:11 AM PDT by dalebert
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Barf!

The extra ten minutes Obama got in the first hour where he lied non stop mattered. Overall it was a draw.


4 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:21 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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BS ...Obama did not win this debate , he lied his way thru it and as the Fact Check’s kick in it will look worse and worse for him . People are tired of his BS and they just don’t buy the snake oil anymore . BIG difference between what he says and what he does , or doesn’t do .


5 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:43 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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From the same article:

“In a larger sense, however, Obama’s success is unlikely to have anything like the impact of that 1980 debate, nor will it likely alter the terrain of the campaign as the first debate of 2012 did. Had the Obama of this debate showed up two weeks ago, he might well have ended Romney’s effort to present himself as a credible alternative to the president.

That opportunity vanished that night. While it’s clear that Obama’s performance will revive the enthusiasm of his supporters, it seems unlikely that it will cause those impressed by Romney to reconsider. Like they say in show business, timing is everything.”

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-wins-the-second-debate—too-bad-it%E2%80%99s-not-the-one-that-mattered-1568495.html


6 posted on 10/17/2012 1:08:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Apparently Greenfield hasn't heard about the results of tonight's Frank Luntz focal group.

Frank Luntz focus group of mostly of former Obama voters say they now support Mitt Romney

Video Pt. 1 Here

Video Pt. 2 Here

"A Frank Luntz focus group made up mostly of former Obama voters say they now support Mitt Romney."

"Forceful, compassionate, presidential," one participant said.
"Confident and realistic," said another.
"Presidential," another told Luntz.
"Enthusiastic," another reacted.
"Our next president," one man said.
"Dynamo, winner," said one more.

"He's lied about everything. He lied to get elected in 2008, that's why I voted for him.
I bought his bull. And he's lied about everything, he hasn't come through on anything.
And he's been bullsh***ing the public," one member of the focus group said."


7 posted on 10/17/2012 1:11:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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I don’t agree.

It won’t change the momentum of the race that favors Romney.

And few are interested in foreign policy, the last debate to be held next week. It comes up against Monday Night football.

Obama needed a Hail Mary play and at best he drew even.

That’s a loss in his book. When you’re losing, you’ll clutch at anything in desperation.

It looked that way four years ago when Obama beat McCain in their debates and Republican partisans made excuses for their candidate.

Now the Obamaniks are rehearsing them for theirs. You know what its like to be at a political funeral. Its not a pretty sight.

Jeff, nice try there but no cigar for your spin. Its already yesterday’s news.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 1:13:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Oh well, someone has to try this...

No... Obama did not win. At very best it was a tie, but everything I have read so far indicates that Romney came out slightly ahead and the moderator is becoming the story due to her blatant favoritism.

Focus groups were aware that she was intending to act outside her assigned role, so they noticed when she did. She damaged her credibility and the credibility of the debate forum, but it’s unlikely to do her or Obama much good in the long term.

Obama needed a knockout. He didn’t get it.

Advantage Romney.


11 posted on 10/17/2012 1:25:14 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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Shove it, Greenfield. Your god did not win.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 1:32:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Just watched the debate after reading the opinions of so many who thought it was a draw.

Romney won HANDILY. He was smooth, articulate, knowledgable, agile, and contradicted a good many lies with ability and conviction.

Obama was blustering, lying and verbose. He worked up a forceful outrage over Libya at one point and may have dominated except for Romney's refusal to be cowed; Romney came back and very effectively challenged what he said.

Clear winner was very definitely Romney despite the chatter saying otherwise.

13 posted on 10/17/2012 1:37:01 AM PDT by what's up
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Jeff Greenfield? He probably wrote the headline before the debate even started.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 1:39:09 AM PDT by expat1000
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[If Obama had performed this way at the first debate, the election would have been over.]

No, it would have been a draw, you bed-wetting dweeb. Obama might have won on rhetoric but he would have lost on facts. In part, Romney won last week because many voters finally saw him without the filter of a corrupt news media. They saw the same Romney tonight.

20 posted on 10/17/2012 2:04:41 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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He is so full of it.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 2:35:57 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Same idiot who was praising Biden last week. How’d that turn out for them.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 2:39:23 AM PDT by snarkytart
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If Obama had performed this way at the first debate, the election would have been over.

Hahahaa... The Won is winning a permanent trip out of the White House on January 20th.

24 posted on 10/17/2012 2:42:24 AM PDT by Red Steel
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Any participant who proclaims low gas prices are a result of an economy on the verge of collapse can't be the winner of a debate. Same goes for answering a question about assault weapons with a speech on education reform.
25 posted on 10/17/2012 2:47:26 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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I can't watch the debates.
I can't take the community organizer and his outright lies that are never questioned by the so called moderator.
I always mute the TV anytime he comes on.
FOX & DRUDGE will fact check the lies, but the only ones who will see it is US.
26 posted on 10/17/2012 3:07:49 AM PDT by DeaconRed (ZERO & JOE think our countries situation is funny. It is NOT Funny. . . .)
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No question about it. Obama lost - again.


29 posted on 10/17/2012 3:18:29 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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Ha, ha what revealing quotes. “On many questions I think Obama had the better of it” says the thoroughly unbiased Greenfield. I guess he means if you’re allowed to get away with lying your way through the entire debate. I see it as Romney on points even if he did blow the Benghazi segment. Romney simply gave a more specific, energetic vision of the economy under his admin and a better American future. The lib pundits (and a few conservatives) gave it to Obama, but in MY!!! thoroughly unbiased review, I’m giving it to Romney for at least not lying.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 3:29:10 AM PDT by driftless2
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Romney won. On the issues that mattered (economy, taxes, deficits) it wasn’t close. Most people certainly perceived that through the Crowley and MSM spin haze.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 4:21:30 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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