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Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations (huge coverup!)
WRKO ^ | Howie Carr radio interview

Posted on 10/13/2012 8:07:38 AM PDT by Gritty

Col. Hunt Interview


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911ii; ambassadorstevens; benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; benghazirealtime; benghazitimeline; bidenlies; davidhunt; dsj; hillary; hunt; libya; obama; stevens
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To: Travis McGee

Nice.

Thanks.

Cocaine will do that to people, I hear.

I met people who were coke heads long ago. They were a trip, that bunch. They did make me laugh, though.


221 posted on 10/13/2012 7:53:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: rodguy911

http://allafrica.com/stories/201210121033.html

“Libya as one of the rear bases for the war in Syria.”

And, now there are two destroyers positioning off the Libyan coast.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/12/us-moving-navy-destroyers-off-coast-of-libya/

Two US Navy warships are moving towards the coast of Libya, two US officials tell CNN. The destroyers are the USS Laboon and the USS McFaul. Both ships are equipped with tomahawk missiles that could be used if a strike was ordered. Tomahawks are satellite-guided cruise missiles that can be programmed to hit specific targets.


222 posted on 10/13/2012 7:55:40 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Travis McGee
The Taliban is inside of the building"...It's the updated, modernt context of "the enemy is inside the wire'....

They are not only "inside the wire". They are inside the White House!

223 posted on 10/13/2012 8:00:44 PM PDT by Gritty (This election represents the last exit ramp before the death spiral - Mark Steyn)
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To: TigersEye

bttt


224 posted on 10/13/2012 8:04:02 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: maggief

So now the Obama administration is leaking that we are sending destroyers to the region? I guess he would not want any of his islamist comrades to get hurt. What a deadly dog and pony show Obama is putting on.


225 posted on 10/13/2012 8:12:40 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: maggief

Oops. Now that it’s in the British press, it really has legs.


226 posted on 10/13/2012 8:13:15 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: maggief

Oh, it’s from 2011. But it’s been out there long enough, the US media
cannot bury it anymore. Popcorn time.


227 posted on 10/13/2012 8:16:41 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: penelopesire

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/10/us-has-sent-troops-to-jordan-syria-border-panetta-says.html

U.S. has sent troops to Jordan-Syria border, Panetta says


228 posted on 10/13/2012 8:21:43 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Triple
Did that ‘personal’ reason a involve an adolescent boy?

The unsubstantiated rumor that I read was that they were out there trying to recover weapons given to al Qaeda to help overthrow Qaddafi... basically trying to clean Obama's dirty laundry before the election.

229 posted on 10/13/2012 8:32:10 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: workerbee

My guess is at this point about the most we can hope for is to vote these traitors out and start all over again.


230 posted on 10/13/2012 8:52:30 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: combat_boots

Funny you should mention that. Recent rumors were that zero was coming off a two month coke binge and that was why he had a poor debate performance. The drugs used to get him off coke didn’t last long enough.LOL!!


231 posted on 10/13/2012 8:55:02 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: maggief
Other best guesses have always been that zero will do some military maneuvers to shore up his falling numbers and make him look like a big time leader.We shall see.
232 posted on 10/13/2012 8:57:42 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: nanetteclaret
The fact that so many people watched and did nothing is astounding.

That's just what is going to happen regarding this from our corrupt "Two-Party Cartel". Nobody of importance is going to suffer any consequences.

233 posted on 10/13/2012 8:59:16 PM PDT by Digger (A)
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To: TigersEye; All

I’m mostly working this weekend so I don’t have much time to research. Maybe you and / or others can answer a couple questions or speculate for me, and I’ll check back. Links are always appreciated!

The battle at the Consulate went on for several hours. The above timeline makes it 4.5 hours, elsewhere I have read “6 hours”, which may be an exaggeration... How far away in time would the closest U.S. (or allied) assets*, that could have made a difference**, be?

*Yes, I realize that air power only in a “tight” physical situation like this is dicey for the defenders - we don’t want to do the terrorists’ job for them.

I don’t see how we could have sent help in time to save Amb. Stevens. But the fighting at the annex might be a different story?

Do we know when the annex fell?

Is it possible that, the evening of the attack, someone upstream, hearing 1st reports of the attacks, assumed “protesters”, said that to others, and that quickly spread through a mindset in the Administration all too ready to think in that context? (Yes, this would be gross incompetence for sure, but that’s sort of a given.)

Alternately, is it possible that an agent or agents unknown “planted” the “protesters” story in the intelligence, on behalf of the attackers? Remember that the flow of information was bound to be somewhat confused and chaotic (combat situation) — yes, Col. Hunt describes well the upward passing of information to many people, but one would also think that there was “information” flying around all over the place. Rarely in these situations is the “picture” as clear as those who design the communication network expect it to be. AQ and other terrorist organizations surely know this and might try to take advantage of it. I’m usually doubtful of the more extreme conspiracy theories, but it certainly seems possible to me that there are AQ moles in our intelligence structure, by now, independent of what one thinks of Obama’s loyalty to his own country.

Just how many defenders (estimated total) were in action by, say, 10:10 pm?

Related: There has been a lot of criticism that the Libyan security “ran”, but given what we know, the small size of the total security force at the Consulate, and the overwhelming advantage of the attackers in both numbers (125 or more is what I have read), arms (mortars, rpg’s), and probably training (of the Libyans, that is), I don’t see that they did that badly. At least one we know of was put out of action almost immediately. Quite a few people escaped, too. In the face of an attack like that, retreating, buying time for others to escape, and going for help, is about all one could expect. The “help” when it arrived, fought, and eventually prevailed. Now, I’m not saying all the Libyan security guards did their job, but I think it is unfair to damn them all. IMO.

Along that line, do we know how many Libyan defenders were killed and injured?


234 posted on 10/13/2012 9:02:04 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Digger
The fact that so many people watched and did nothing is astounding.

Reminds me of the Movie, Clear and Present Danger, where the govt left some special forces guys, doing the govt's illegal dirty work, to die in the jungles of Columbia.

235 posted on 10/13/2012 9:10:25 PM PDT by bygolly
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To: Paul R.

Note: In a post above (while I was intermittently writing my post) I see that Ms. Lamb apparently said there were 3 Libyan guards at the compound. Was that 3 on duty, or just three in the whole place? Either way, good Lord... If it’s three total, then that makes 6 or 7 U.S. and Libyan security guards actually fighting 125 or more attackers armed with (at least some) heavier weaponry. (One Libyan guard, at least, was knocked out of action at the outset. I’m not sure who of our people was minding the comm room.)

I was trying to put myself in the shoes of a defender... Not a way to get a good night’s sleep, methinks.


236 posted on 10/13/2012 9:12:55 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: LucyT; null and void

Thanks for the Pings. FRmail coming your way.


237 posted on 10/13/2012 9:13:24 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: Paul R.; TigersEye; All

Last question to everyone (for tonight).

If the CIA was operating out of the annex, perhaps there were a few more more “defenders” (who cannot be revealed, even if they were killed) than we think we know about? Not enough to change the eventual outcome, but perhaps that’s why it may (may) have held out longer?

Romney debate question to Obama: Mr. President, how is it that CNN and other news organizations had reporters on the scene quickly, picking up valuable intelligence, yet the FBI was delayed for weeks due to the area purportedly being “too dangerous” for them to go in? (This leads to all sorts of fun followups!)


238 posted on 10/13/2012 9:28:56 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: CyberAnt
WOW! I heard Lamb say she was watching the attack - LIVE - but I thought it was from on-site cameras at the consulate .. not a drone.

Rember the photo of those in the situation room when Ben Laude was supposedly killed? That is what was happening, real time in over a dozen places is what Hunt is saying.

239 posted on 10/13/2012 9:38:53 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: Paul R.
... How far away in time would the closest U.S. (or allied) assets*, that could have made a difference**, be?

Some troops did arrive in time to fight off attacks at the "annex." Obviously someone knew this wasn't a rowdy protest and sent a plane with troops and a Libyan security team to rescue and evacuate the entire staff of the consulate. It flew in from Tripoli and must have arrived in under three hours after the first assault on the main building.

US diplomats, Marine rescue team were also attacked at safe house, Libyans say Sept. 12, 2012

'Six mortars' on path to villa

Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack on the safe house. It was not clear if this was a diplomat or one of the consulate's original security detail.

"It began to rain down on us," Obeidi told Reuters, describing the moment the attack began -- just as the Libyan security force was starting up the 10 pickup trucks and sedans they had brought to ferry the Americans to the airport.

Libyan attacks said to be 2-part militant assault Sept. 13, 2012

BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — The attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday.

U.S. officials have said attackers broke into the main consulate building at around 10:15 p.m. and set the compound on fire.

After an hour, according to U.S. officials, U.S. and Libyan officials drove the attackers from the consulate.

The next attack came hours later. Around 30 American staffers along with Libyans had been evacuated to the safe house while a plane arrived from Tripoli with a joint U.S.-Libyan security group that was to fly them back to the capital, el-Sharef said.

El-Sharef said the original plan was for a separate Libyan security unit to escort the evacuees to the airport. Instead, the joint unit went from the airport to the safe house, possibly because they were under the impression they were dealing with a hostage situation, he said. The militant attack coincided with the joint team's arrival at the safe house, he said.

Remember that the flow of information was bound to be somewhat confused and chaotic (combat situation) — yes, Col. Hunt describes well the upward passing of information to many people, ...

Actually Col. Hunt explained that everyone up the chain would have necessarily been notified immediately and they would have had the same access as DAS Lamb. ie. they could have listened in on the phone conversations w/personnel on the ground and watched the live security video on their laptops. There is no doubt that that would be available to the Pres., VP, Sec. State, Pentagon brass, CIA chiefs and many others. They could also have spoken with personnel on the ground just as DAS Lamb did.

Now, I’m not saying all the Libyan security guards did their job, but I think it is unfair to damn them all. IMO.

I agree. I don't know who is condemning them but in this post I said that none of them should have survived given the odds they faced. Something about that carries suspicions of its own.

240 posted on 10/13/2012 9:48:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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