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POLL: Do you think applying affirmative action to universities' admission policies violates rights?
KVOA News 4 Tucson ^ | 10-9-2012 | KVOA News 4 Tucson

Posted on 10/10/2012 7:14:04 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG

Poll asks Today, the Supreme Court is questioning the University of Texas' use of race in college admissions. Do you think applying affirmative action to universities' admission policies violates the rights of white applicants? Yes or No

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; az; highereducation; poll; preferences; race; texas; ut
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To: svcw
Applying affirmative action means that the majority thinks the minority is incapable of excellence.

The libtards need a permanent underclass that they can give goodies to in exchange for votes. They have to convince the minority that they can't excel without the majority's "help" to maintain their power.

21 posted on 10/10/2012 7:54:22 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: pops88
My daughter started UNLV at 13 so I’ve spent untold hours on campus. I refer to it as NWM- No White Males.

That's quite an accomplishment on your and your daughter's part. What kind of grade school education did she receive?

22 posted on 10/10/2012 7:58:03 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: svcw

The affirmative action crowd has displayed its “excellence” regarding the Benghazi disaster. I would say that Congress went into meltdown today at the stupid statements coming out of the Obama affirmative action administration.


23 posted on 10/10/2012 7:58:31 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: FreedomPoster
And Asian applicants.

No one on the Left wants to talk about that.

Good point.

24 posted on 10/10/2012 7:59:32 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Freepers have long pointed out that affirmative action is a huge violation of “equal protection.”


25 posted on 10/10/2012 8:00:51 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Sorry. A fellow Arizonan, Sandra Day O'Connor, said that it was OK to suspend the 14th Amendment as it might apply to college admissions because affirmative action was "a compelling national interest" for, at least, "another 25 years". <

I'm not saying she was right, but Mother O'Connor spoke for SCOTUS on this issue in Grutter vs Bollinger.

26 posted on 10/10/2012 8:02:33 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

I just looked that up. The decision was 2003 so we’re good to go after 2028?

Just kidding.

Sometimes I think the SCOTUS is unconstitutional. Didn’t they arrogate the power to review constitutionality of laws?


27 posted on 10/10/2012 8:13:29 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

YES
383 votes 91.2%

NO
37 votes 8.8%


28 posted on 10/10/2012 8:15:48 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Work for the most conservative one in the race, and keep up the pressure.)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

She grew up overseas so was home schooled as well as privately tutored. Machete Friday school yard clean up just didn’t work for me very much, or barefoot, lice endemic schools in a “Westernized” country. She had a few years in the U.S. in a gifted program and missed the cut off for the very highly gifted high school program by 2 points. We had her take the SAT. She scored 89% so we enrolled her. The recruiter literal said, “Holy $h!t.” Our public schools are beyond horrid.


29 posted on 10/10/2012 8:18:50 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Voted and found this nugget on the web site.

“Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu announced the creation of an armed “Anti-Smuggling Posse,” comprised of unpaid volunteers, to assist the sheriff’s office in “fighting the rampant drug smuggling in Pinal County.”

Hmmmmm, I could be interested.


30 posted on 10/10/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Racism isn’t bad if it’s good.

Good racism helps people, bad racism is...well bad.

People should be treated equally without regard to skin color, unless they are of a certain skin color that is considered inferior, by people who are not at all racist. Then those people (the inferior ones) need to be treated more equally to make up for the lack of equality in their equality.

So to sum up. Racsim isn’t racism unless it is racism, and that is only the case when the Left defines something as racism. Otherwise its simply treating people differently based on their race.


31 posted on 10/10/2012 8:26:08 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: pops88

Very impressive.

We home school too. My daughter’s values will be mine and my wife’s, not the government’s or their employees’.


32 posted on 10/10/2012 8:27:52 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: Enterprise

This is a great case because the “victims” are eating their own; the applicant is a white woman, and ethnic malcontents have long complained that “white women” are as privileged as “white men” and therefore undeserving of the lowered bar (for admissions, jobs, promotions). The fact that college classes were almost 60% female signaled many problems with the current policies (including the fact that disenfranchised white men don’t tend to marry/breed), and now we’ve come full circle in the same way we did with mortgages: when there weren’t enough loans to unqualified ethnic minorities, the federal government forced the banks to basically throw money at them (which they couldn’t repay, and for which they are now claiming they were victimized); in the same manner, unqualified “students” borrowed to attend colleges and either 1) dropped/failed out, or 2) finished and can’t find work anyway. Expect to see the cries of now they were hornswaggled by carpetbaggers into these steep tuition bills.

Nothing was sadder during the 4 years I spent at a state school than the moment of realization when a token realized they had no business in the classroom; they were so far behind, and could only do well if they had been let in strictly on their merits (as the white & Asian males were).


33 posted on 10/10/2012 8:31:26 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Thank you for your vote!
Today, the Supreme Court is questioning the University of Texas’ use of race in college admissions. Do you think applying affirmative action to universities’ admission policies violates the rights of white applicants?
Yes
431 votes
92.1%
No
37 votes
7.9%


34 posted on 10/10/2012 8:36:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
Yes! It violates rights of whites as well as other races. I have experienced it PERSONALLY!. As a TX teacher who went back and got a BA at 35, with a 3.8 GPA, I tried to enter UT Austin. Was refused because of an average GRE score-1050, having taken it cold during finals and trying to answer every question, instead of skipping and answering those I knew.

A fellow teacher, Hispanic male, also applied to UT Austin--had much lower GPA and GRE--WE EXCHANGED INFO. He was admitted and was appalled I was not. He was a nice guy and a good teacher but his race/ethnicity got him IN with MONEY to pay his way.

I eventually retook the GRE and made the 94th percentile, so they took me, but we moved to AL where I completed my MS.

In AL, I worked with a black woman who was admitted to UA Tuscaloosa conditionally because she had neither the grades nor the test scores to be admitted otherwise. She was, after all, a diversity number.

To me, the liberal definition of diversity is race first, educational success last.

vaudine

35 posted on 10/10/2012 8:37:17 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: SampleMan

Some racism is more equal than other racism.


36 posted on 10/10/2012 8:39:23 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
Sometimes I think the SCOTUS is unconstitutional. Didn’t they arrogate the power to review constitutionality of laws?

Indeed, they did -- Marbury vs Madison.

However, you must admit that trusting Congress to make its own decisions as to what's Constitutional and what's not is fraught with risk.

37 posted on 10/10/2012 8:46:58 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: vaudine

I grew up next to an Underground Railroad town. My parents taught me, “don’t judge a book by it’s cover.” It was understood it had multiple meanings. I accompanied my mother to a master’s degree class and heard her bitterly complain about how much was paid in books and tuition and the blacks had everything paid for. Even as young as I was, with her fellow students not even able to speak decent English in a master’s program class, I knew it was very wrong.


38 posted on 10/10/2012 8:52:02 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: pops88

I should have added that I was 8 years old, my mother was in a reading specialist master’s degree program, and I was an example of teaching children to read early and the mastery that could be achieved at a very young age. I read to one of her classes. I wasn’t toted there because of no babysitter. I went from “Dick and Jane” to Newsweek at age 4 or 5. Family time- having your 4 year old read Newsweek to you. Happy times, but I still ended up conservative.


39 posted on 10/10/2012 9:12:24 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
Yes votes are now up to 92.7%.
40 posted on 10/10/2012 9:16:47 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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