Posted on 10/09/2012 2:41:24 PM PDT by drewh
No one on the left is making the case that President Obamas listless first debate against Mitt Romney was a good thing for the campaign. The question now is how worried they should be amid early post-debate polling showing a Mitt Romney surge. Mild concern? Creeping fear? Full-blown freakout?
The undisputed captain of Team Freakout is Newsweeks Andrew Sullivan, the longtime Obama supporter who has written a number of cover stories advocating for his campaign. His post-debate analysis of how Obama plummeted into near-oblivion is so spectacularly glum that it spawned its own parody account on Twitter, @SullyPanic (sample tweet: After Wednesdays debate Im leaving the Catholic church. God is dead.)
Team Freakout hit maximum garment-rending levels after a poll from the respected Pew Research Center dropped Monday showing Obama down 4 to Romney, a total collapse from Pews last survey in September showing the president with an 8-point lead. Another national poll by Democratic PPP found Romney taking a 2-point lead, his first of the year.
That said, more optimistic Democrats found several mitigating factors to keep them away from the ledge. Most notably, several pollsters, including Rasmussen, Gallup, PPP, and ABC News, found Romney surging (albeit less dramatically) in their own numbers but only in the immediate aftermath of the debate. By the weekend, things seemed to be shifting back towards Obama. The bulk of Pews numbers came Thursday and Friday.
Tom Jensen, a pollster for the Democratic PPP, told TPM that he was still reserving judgment for now in the case of Team Freakout vs. Team Optimism.
I am concerned about the polls in the last week, but not quite to the freaking out point, he said. Ive been telling people since the Democratic convention that something crazy would have to happen for Obama not to win. I think the incredibly lopsided debate does qualify as something crazy and that who will win is a much more uncertain question than it was a week ago.
While Romneys apparent dropoff in weekend polling was a positive sign for Democrats, Jensen suggested Democrats may need to wait a few days before either going nuclear or backing down to Defcon 5.
I think if Romneys continuing to run evenish nationally a week from now and if were starting to see some toss up or Romney leaning swing state [polls] from legitimate companies then it might be freak out time, he said.
New York Times polling guru Nate Silver offered up a similar plea for calm on his blog. In addition to Romney possibly already coming back down to earth from his post-debate highs, Silver noted that most of the scariest swing state polls to emerge so far are from Republican-leaning outlets that actually pegged Obama at the same weak position when he had a dominant lead in national polls as well.
One Democratic strategist familiar with polling who didnt want his name used due to his client list told TPM the polls hes seeing in all-important swing states arent making him nervous. Yet.
Nobody should be freaking out because we have yet to see a lot of good quality data in any of the swing states, the strategist said. Ive already seen some quality polls in some of the swing states that show things to be relatively stable.
He dismissed national polling as largely irrelevant, but did say movement for Romney post-debate is real.
There was always going to be a tightening. Am I dismissing the movement? No, he said. Clearly somethings going on when 70 million people watch the debate. Theres clearly an interest in this stuff thats at an all time high. So we cant dismiss it but I think that the notion that the sky is falling is probably overdone.
Now’s as good a time as any.................
I think the answer is YES.
Freak Out, Drop Out, Blow out, bow out, etc.
this woman was way ahead of the curve...The Obama Phone Lady Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwa3t-o4rmg&feature=related
Nobody should be freaking out because we have yet to see a lot of good quality data in any of the swing states, the strategist said. Ive already seen some quality polls in some of the swing states that show things to be relatively stable.
PA & OH aer tightening to single digits. R has the lead in FL.
Rasmussen has even CT a six point Obama lead.
Reletively stable ?
Not yet. Four weeks is an eternity in politics.
Ignoring the obvious—that Obozo supporters have been freaking out for some time—they seem to be discovering that Americans want to elect people who have accomplished things in the private sector not people who have failed in both the private sector (both Barack and Moochelle surrendered their law licenses) and in the public sector...and the American people seem to have caught on that Obama and his minions are epic failures.
i doubt many in the famed 47% moved or will be moved. What happened is that the squishy mods firmed up for Romney and the undecided saw Romney as a true candidate and not just the fake cartoon the media tried to paint.
Barring some major event, I think what you see now is what the electorate will be on Election Day and the key will be about turnout, not changing voters’ minds.
Bow out? ROFLMAO! Obamanites bowing?
The liberal TPM is striving to keep the troops from bolting. This defies the polling results since the weekend.
Who is going to know when they freak out? They are all a bunch of lying drama queen, tantrum throwers anyway, on a daily basis.
Murders, suicides, drug overdoses, beatings, child abuses and the like are all going up.
That is the real Freak Out.
Yes, they should.........
Freak out?
Who could tell?
my new ringtone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA1sVqSIfYA&feature=related
Why not? They are freaks.
LOL...is that really a ringtone?
I expect Chris Matthews head to explode on live TV before the election.
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