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Scientific American: Dumb as a Bag of Hammers
Scientific American ^ | 9/25/12

Posted on 09/25/2012 9:15:32 AM PDT by pabianice

In its latest edition, we get this from the nitwits at "Scientific American":

" Why Airplane Windows Don't Roll Down

"Were you to open a plane window, the compressed air inside would rapidly rush out, atmospheric conditions inside and outside the plane would equalize, and everybody would die."

I don't know what grammer school kid wrote this for Scientific American, but after I stopped laughing, I had to call it.

"At 35,000 ft. (11,000 m), the typical altitude of a commercial jet, the air pressure drops to less than a quarter of its value at sea level, and the outside temperature drops below negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit (negative 51 degrees Celsius), according to The Engineering Toolbox. Exposed to such conditions, you would quickly die.".

Short answer: NO. For those of us who actually know something about aviation and who may have gone through military flight training, when you lose atmospheric compression, everyone has an enormous fart, your ears hurt, your pen lets lose in your flight suit pocket, there is an instantaneous fogging of the cabin, and it does get very loud and cold but you have time to grab your O2 mask or close the hatch and re-ressurize. You do NOT explode like in a bad sci fi movie, or get sucked out into space like Goldfinger. You do NOT instantly die. You DO have about 25 seconds to put on your mask or make other arrangements. You die only if you work for "Scientific American."

Nitwits.


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SA's far-left anti-Romney slant has made them the laughing stock of the sciences. Way to squander a century's legacy!
1 posted on 09/25/2012 9:15:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

More evidence SA is not much of an objective digest of science and technology any more. Their first foray into becoming a populist rag was globull warming support.

Now they become even more of a political commentary.

Pitiful.


2 posted on 09/25/2012 9:21:08 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.s)
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To: pabianice

The collective intelligence of all that have voted for or still support Obuggery is substantially less than a bag of hammers.


3 posted on 09/25/2012 9:21:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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SA. Seriously? You should be ashamed to include “scientific” in your title. Do you REALLY believe that Romney is that stupid? Try looking in the mirror. Morons! You don’t understand what he meant? Who’s the mensa genius running your outfit.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years. (do you think SA will understand that?) Never mind, probably not.


4 posted on 09/25/2012 9:22:21 AM PDT by rktman
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To: pabianice

Er, not to get in the way of a good rant, but I didn’t see anything in the text you highlighted that suggested they were saying you would “die instantly.” They said that if you were exposed to these conditions, you would die quickly (which you would). The oxygen masks exist to make sure that you AREN’T exposed to these conditions for more than a few seconds.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 9:22:43 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which gets filled first.)
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To: pabianice

As an ex fighter jock, I confirm that FR readers are a lot more informed than the Scientific Muslim...er...American loons.

I quit getting their joke of a magazine years ago.


6 posted on 09/25/2012 9:26:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Yashcheritsiy

That’s true. If the cabin depressurized at 35k, everyone who votes for Obama would sit there passively, O2 masks dangling in front of them, waiting for a government worker to come and help, so yes, they would all die.


7 posted on 09/25/2012 9:28:03 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: pabianice

about 10 years ago I quick taking SA because of it’s turn away from science to political science. Complete rag sheet


8 posted on 09/25/2012 9:30:26 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really NOW!!!!)
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To: pabianice

I own an airplane that has a proper roll down window. But, also, many Part 25 Transports have windows that can be opened in flight.

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/424078-why-open-cockpit-window.html

BTW, he said “Open”, “Roll Down” is incorreclty inferred.


9 posted on 09/25/2012 9:31:49 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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That’s about right.

And I’m sure their last dying thought as they sat there staring at the dangling masks would be “Wah! Romney got more than his fair share of oxygen!”


10 posted on 09/25/2012 9:31:51 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which gets filled first.)
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To: pabianice

It would be nice if there was a way, once the plane was not moving, to pop the windows open if there is a fire inside the cabin.

That would help prevent suffocation deaths.

Even a small fire could kill a lot of people in a plane by smoke inhalation, if the fire took out the ventilation.

Of course, the chance of that is very low compared to the risk of having windows that could be forced open, so trade-offs are made. That doesn’t mean we can’t say that it would be nice if you could.

We do have removable windows in the center of the craft, to help people escape onto the wing. SO it’s not a stupid idea. And yes, if someone manages to open one of those in flight, or to open the doors, we would have decompression.


11 posted on 09/25/2012 9:32:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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This was actually a hit piece on Romney. He was joking with the press (according to a pool reporter) but SA and its readers assumed he was serious.


12 posted on 09/25/2012 9:32:53 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Note that the oxygen mask doesn’t prevent ANY of the conditions they mention, EXCEPT for the lack of oxygen.

So apparently, the cold and the lack of pressure aren’t going to kill you very quickly. There is time for the pilot to bring the plane down to a safe altitude, so long as you can keep oxygen to your lungs.

SO I would call their rant “mostly false”.


13 posted on 09/25/2012 9:34:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

If Romney called himself “eye candy” or said a terrorist attack was a “bump in the road”, the MSM would crucify him


14 posted on 09/25/2012 9:37:01 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: pabianice

In their zeal to attack Romney Scientific American used statistics for a “Commercial” airliner. Ann Romney was on a 10 passenger corporate jet (Canadair CL-600 Challenger 601). I’m no scientist but I am pretty sure they are not the same.


15 posted on 09/25/2012 9:37:58 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: dirtymac
I too can remember when SA was actually about science. Sadly, no more. Price up, quality and size down. I've noticed the actual amount of text has shrunk by half over the years to replaced by wider margins and flashy pictures.

Now I can't stand to even look at it.

16 posted on 09/25/2012 9:39:01 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Sequoyah101
I bailed out on my SciAm subscription fifteen years ago because they had gone off the glow-bull warming cliff. It's only gotten worse since then.

A shame, really.

17 posted on 09/25/2012 9:41:06 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: pabianice

The whorenalists are are beclowning themselves all over

One of the scariest things to happen in an airplace is for it to fill with smoke

You cant see your instruments, you can’t see outside the windows, you cant breathe... if it is bad enough you are going to die unless you can normally land a plane with your eyes closed


18 posted on 09/25/2012 9:42:40 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The oxygen masks are basically for passenger comfort. Passengers can be exposed for two full minutes to complete depressurization. This is from the FAA. They also specify (like they would need to anyway) that this requires an emergency descent.
It’s critical that the flight crew mask up fast. But the passengers can sleep and will wake up fine after the emergency descent.


19 posted on 09/25/2012 9:42:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: pabianice

hee hee... I didnt know about the enormous fart part


20 posted on 09/25/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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