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Shift in polls rocks Romney campaign
Maine Sunday Telegram ^ | 09/22/2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/23/2012 4:46:51 AM PDT by dokmad

"Obama's momentum benefits from his rival 'making the case against himself,' a strategist says.

The Associated Press

DES MOINES, Iowa - In a presidential race seemingly frozen in place for months, the advantage has shifted toward President Obama after a series of miscues by Mitt Romney, punctuated by the Republican challenger's comments about people who pay no income tax.

(Excerpt) Read more at pressherald.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; campaign; liars; maine; politics; polls
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To: chessplayer

Its not really, because they’re using RV and 2008 models which was an anomaly for dems. However the media loves to use them when it shows Obama winning but Gallup has it tied for a couple of days now and the media is still running with this OMG ROMNEY IS IN TROUBLE meme. Why is that?


81 posted on 09/23/2012 9:13:34 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ontap

“According to Drudge it’s Obamas campaign that is worried!!”
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That is Drudge saying or reporting?

TIA


82 posted on 09/23/2012 9:14:43 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: dokmad
No. It's another sign of desperation.
83 posted on 09/23/2012 9:21:36 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: dokmad

Well if you believe media polls that assume Obama will turn out more voters in 2012 then he did 2008, then yes.

If you believe the professional pollsters like Gallup and Rasmussen, no.


84 posted on 09/23/2012 9:23:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: major-pelham

Intrade had Obamacare to be overturned at 90%. It is utterly useless as a predictor.


85 posted on 09/23/2012 9:24:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: snarkytart

Obama campaigning in Wisconsin shows he’s worried.


86 posted on 09/23/2012 9:29:02 AM PDT by AU72
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To: CapnJack
Why is it every time there is “bad” news for Romney or polls showing him down in the race ... it is always criticized as “bias” or unbelievable?

Because people actually bother to crunch the numbers presented instead of just accepting what ever the Leftist media tells them to think at face value. Really think Obama is going to get more votes in 2012 then he did in 2008? The media pollsters do. Really think the same media that manufactured the fraudulent Bush National Guard story in 2004 and corruptly coordinated coverage with the Obama campaign in 2008 via the Jour-0-list web site magically changed to being honest this time?

87 posted on 09/23/2012 9:29:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: CapnJack

Ok why do you believe the proven politically corrupt Media that shows Obama ahead and discount the professional pollsters like Rassmussen and Gallup that show the race tied?


88 posted on 09/23/2012 9:31:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: snarkytart

Really think the same media that presented you the fraudulent Bush national guard story in 2004 and corruptly coordinated “news” coverage with the Obama campaign in 2008 via the Jour-0-list website magically changed to be objective and honest this year?


89 posted on 09/23/2012 9:34:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: paul544

Really think the same media that presented you the fraudulent Bush national guard story in 2004 and corruptly coordinated “news” coverage with the Obama campaign in 2008 via the Jour-0-list website magically changed to be objective and honest this year?


90 posted on 09/23/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: AU72

Well maybe. It’s too early to stop campaigning in any state that’s in the margin of error in polls. Doesn’t mean Obama is down in WI.
We’ll see. I don’t know what to think anymore with all the polls and people posting negative articles from the media on one hand, and posters downplaying the polls and articles on the other hand.
Head Spins!


91 posted on 09/23/2012 9:37:42 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: chessplayer

Ok same question for you.

Why do you choose to ignore the professional polls that show the race tied and believe the Media polls that show Obama winning?

Really think the same media that presented you the fraudulent Bush national guard story in 2004 and corruptly coordinated “news” coverage with the Obama campaign in 2008 via the Jour-0-list website magically changed to be objective and honest this year?.


92 posted on 09/23/2012 9:40:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Right Wing Assault

True. Intrade is the small dumb money being bet that has zero inside knowledge. It is the the herd following the polls. The real money, i.e. the hundreds of billions being wagered in the US stock and bond markets, those guys have inside knowledge.


93 posted on 09/23/2012 9:40:34 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Road Glide
Even lil’ Newty would have fared

Sorry but anyone who use that sort of derogatory statement is not "As conservative as anyone on this board". Seems you been trolled.

94 posted on 09/23/2012 9:42:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: chessplayer; CapnJack
Ok same question put another way.

Not one President who polled under 50% in the election season has won reelection. Even the pro Obama polling do not get him past that 50% number.

Why do you two insist Obama will be the exception to this historic record?

Seems all the fact is on the Romney camp's side and all the emotion based opinions on yours.

So why should we take your opinions seriously and not the facts?

95 posted on 09/23/2012 9:45:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Why do you choose to ignore the professional polls that show the race tied and believe the Media polls that show Obama winning?


Don’t know if I believe them or not. There are a gazillion polls out there. As for the professional polls, less than two weeks ago we were bashing Gallup as being untrustworthy. I find it odd that now we are supposed to trust them.


96 posted on 09/23/2012 10:08:35 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I see don’t bother you with the facts that challenge your emotion based opinions. Got it.


97 posted on 09/23/2012 10:11:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Road Glide
I know the Romney campaign's passiveness right now is discouraging but I think there may be a method behind the madness that will tilt this race in his favour.

Romney is a smart guy. We also know he can get down and dirty (see the primaries) when required. I don't think anyone questions that. Romney's camp is well aware that he is running not only against Obummer but also against the MSM. I think the campaign is using the “rope-a-dope” strategy. Stay close until early October, then use a carpet bomb ad campaign to highlight Obummer’s dismal record. By holding their punches until late in the campaign, Romney can force the MSM to have to build their defense of Obummer on several fronts at once with severe time constraints. O’s record is a target rich environment. There is no way the MSM can sugarcoat his failures if Romney can get the message out in manner which limits the MSM’s time to respond.

I have no inside knowledge to back this up. It's just my sense of what the strategy is. If Romney's attack never materializes, then he will have run one of the worst campaigns in history. I hope this is not the case.

98 posted on 09/23/2012 10:11:25 AM PDT by Redcat
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To: Roklok

“I am so pissed I can’t see straight!!!”

Be of good cheer and get those eyes focused straight ahead — Obama is about to be crushed in November. The media know it, but Obama has such a leash on their big-wigs in management that the best they can do is keep him in the race via sham polling and journalists who report what they are told to report.

Election day will iron that all out with a political Bitch-slap of epic proportions.


99 posted on 09/23/2012 11:44:43 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Ok why do you believe the proven politically corrupt Media that shows Obama ahead and discount the professional pollsters like Rassmussen and Gallup that show the race tied?”

I look back to the polls of early fall 2008.


100 posted on 09/23/2012 12:18:32 PM PDT by CapnJack
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