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Boy Scouts helped alleged molesters cover tracks, files show
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/17/2012 | Kim Christensen and Jason Felch

Posted on 09/17/2012 9:38:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Raycpa

Exactly. The press hates the Boy Scouts and tries to malign them and destroy them because they teach Universal Truth (God). (Right and Wrong according to Judeo-Christian Ethics which can’t exist with “homosexual rights” ).

The fact is you can NEVER trust homosexuals to manage a bunch of boys—ever. By their very definition, they desire sex with the same and sex is how they define themselves.

Homosexuals took over the boy scouts in Germany in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s which led to orgies in the woods and a National Vice of Homosexuality becoming the major activity of Germans. This national vice was dominate in forming the Weimar Republic—and creating all their vulgar “art” at the time. In fact, the SA Brownshirts and Hitler were homosexual and the abuse of the Hitler Youth was common.

All homosexual cultures use boys for sex. Pederasty becomes normal because it is a learned behavior—by being abused as children. Anyone who advocates for homosexual “Rights’ are advocating for the raping of boys.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 10:45:08 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeekAndFind

The boy scouts do no allow gay scout leaders in the same way that the Catholics do not allow gay priests but imagine the uproar if either orgainzation purged suspected homos. You would have cries of witch hunt, congressional hearings, and the whole nine yards as the queers are politically powerful.

Both organizations attract homosexuals because it puts them in proximity to young boys who see them as an authority figure. It appears that the the scouts made the same mistake as the Catholics of shuffling around the homosexuals that made it into the system as opposed to outing them and dealing with the fall out.

The proper way to treat the incidents of molestation is to put the pervert up for justice, settle the civil suit and issue statements to effect of “we try diligently to prevent homosexuals from infiltrating our ranks and this is why.”


22 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:42 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: SeekAndFind
As the parent of three Eagle Scouts and as a person who has known a number of Scout leaders for many years plus a member who is in National Scout leadership - I can tell you that Scouting has done an excellent job at fighting the gay effort to convert Scouting into a gay courting ground. Between the training of the scoutmasters and the constant vigilance to keep gays out, Scouting has been successful.

In the 80s and 90s, BSA headquarters had a rash of break-ins aimed at stealing file information. The called it their 3-G problem. The fact that they allow for the worship of GOD, the GAYS want to be scout leaders, and GIRLS want to be boy scouts. So, they built a new headquarters which made it hard for the 3-G's to steal any info. The gays resorted to convincing a judge to force Scouting to hand over the files.

What do the files show? That Scouting has been vigilant at getting rid of any scoutmaster or leader they deem to be unsuitable. The BSA has no authority to put anyone in jail. The BSA wants to do its job and not get involved in court cases putting people in jail.

In about 400 of those cases — 80% — there is no record of Scouting officials reporting the allegations to police. In more than 100 of the cases, officials actively sought to conceal the alleged abuse or allowed the suspects to hide it, The Times found.

The files show that they have had to contend with 600 perverts out of the many, many tens of thousands of scout leaders since 1919.

The ordinary scout leader is someone who gives up his extra time he could be doing other stuff in order to help form young men into men. Most scout leaders have sons of their own in the same scout troop. Boys who work as leaders within their troop usually go on to join the military and become leaders there. Scouting tends to squeeze out a boy's wimp factor. Scout leaders are serious about their work to mold young men. And they also work hard to keep the fairies out.

It is only natural that the BSA would be a target. Going to a Scouting campout is like stepping back in time, when a kid could enjoy camping with his buddies, enjoy the out of doors and learn to be a man. The goal of Scouting is to mold men into being real men and they are succeeding in their work.

23 posted on 09/17/2012 11:02:59 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems to me that this further bolsters the Scouts’ claim that they have the right to say who and who cannot be scouts and scout leaders.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 11:06:47 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: DesertRhino

This is another issue where Romney and Obama agree. They both believe that gays should be allowed to participate in Boy Scouts. In fact during the Salt Lake Olympics Romney refused to let the Boy Scouts participate as volunteer, he said it was because they were minors. When it was pointed out that other minors were allowed to participate he said they could volunteer but they could not wear their uniforms. This had never been done at other Olympics and has not been done sense. He did not want to offend the gays. He later bragged he would be better for gays than Ted Kennedy. His gay marriage and same sex adoptions have proven that true.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 11:09:04 AM PDT by brightright
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To: gimme1ibertee

“Wonder how many of those molesters were gay?”

One would think ALL of them. After all, they molested BOY scouts, right?


26 posted on 09/17/2012 11:10:07 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Setting up the BSA for destruction through litigation.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 11:28:55 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: SeekAndFind

This shameful past brought out in law suits, is exactly why they have zero tolerance, as an organization, for exposing boys to the care and authority of queers. There was a huge, nation-wide pedophilla ring operating in the scouts. The scouts offers great access to boys in their scout activities.

The Catholic church should be doing the same thing.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 11:48:31 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: trailhkr1; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; wisconsinconservative; ...
The Scouts can’t win no matter what they do...they will be attacked.

Scout ping

29 posted on 09/17/2012 11:54:31 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think the Scouts have learned their lesson. I'm a merit badge counselor. I had to go through "touchy-feelie" training before they'd accept me. In every interaction I have with the boys, there must be at least one scout leader present(as a counselor I'm not considered a Scout leader). I think the Scouts are doing everything they can to protect the boys.
30 posted on 09/17/2012 11:59:06 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Any man molesting a boy is involved in gay sex - is gay. Even if he has a beard, he’s a homo if he is engaging in gay sexual behaviors with other males. Duh!


31 posted on 09/17/2012 12:01:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind

They do not ban gays from the boy scouts, they ban open discussion and gay activities because it is NOT part of their program. I knew of a Dist Executive that was gay, he is still employed there, but NOT openly gay. All this mess over nothing at all. The gays want to dance around and say look at me, I am gay. THE BSA will not allow gayness as part of their curriculum and it is not discussed for the sake of the boys. Being a homosexual is not a merit badge so it is not to be discussed.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Raycpa

When a boy comes forward and says “Scoutmaster X sexually abused me” then Scoutmaster X is “suspected of abuse”.

The problem was that they didn’t report it to authorities but swept it under the rug and after numerous “suspicions” allowed the offender to resign in good standing with the Boy Scouts.

“Hey X was a former Scoutmaster, and left only for work related reasons - lets hire him as camp director for our summer camp for young boys.”

It was demented and sick - a Penn State atmosphere where such conduct was allowed to be ignored because nobody wanted to raise a stink.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 12:09:23 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: television is just wrong

I worked for a council, it was my job to do the criminal back ground checks. Laid off because of the economy.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 12:11:00 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I din’t mean the story was an attack on the Scouts. I meant people, almost always from the Left, who attack the Scouts as an Org for not, for instance allowing Gay leaders and Atheists in.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 12:20:10 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: SeekAndFind; stylecouncilor; windcliff; onedoug
The LA Times rooting out predatory homosexual molesters?

No. This is the beginning of what will be a wave of these stories. The Oregon State Supreme Court recently upheld a decision to require the BSA to turn over thousands of records going back decades on Scouting volunteers who were reported, or banned, from Scouting, including for non-sexual abuse.

Abuse occurs in all Scouting units with various types of sponsors. The case at issue, involving Scout Leader Timur Dykes, wasn't a Catholic unit as seemingly suggested above. It was an LDS unit in the Cascade Pacific Council where the bishop to whom Dykes confessed did not report the incident, and Dykes was subsequently allowed to serve in two additional positions.

The COJCOLDS settled out of court. The BSA and the Cascade Pacific Council did not. The jury found all three parties (BSA, CPC, and LDS) liable, and ordered the BSA to turn over the records.

36 posted on 09/17/2012 12:25:41 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: SeekAndFind

So now the BSA will have a reputation like that of the Catholic Church. And gay advocates will be able to point out that it is not gay scout leaders that needed to be kept out of the Scouts, but rather pedophiles, which they INSIST are two separate and contradictory things. The timing is telling, too. Of course suppression is wrong, but there is more to this story than meets the eye.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 1:13:17 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SeekAndFind

“Volunteers and employees suspected of abuse were allowed to leave citing bogus reasons such as business demands, “chronic brain dysfunction” and duties at a Shakespeare festival.”

“duties at Shakespeare festival.”?

Note to self: Stay far away from Shakespeare festivals!


38 posted on 09/17/2012 1:39:53 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: allmendream
When a boy comes forward and says “Scoutmaster X sexualy abused me” then Scoutmaster X is “suspected of abuse”.

I would agree but do we have those details? In scouts, if you were left alone at camp site with the boys that would be a violation and subject a man to suspicion. As a merit badge counselor, I could not meet a boy in a room alone. If I did, I could be under suspicion.

39 posted on 09/17/2012 2:48:43 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

No doubt the Boy Scouts of America suspect someone of molestation for no reason at all!/s

Being alone with a boyscout would NOT be suspicious of child molestation back then - it only recently became the policy that they should never be alone with a boyscout. And if they were - it would be a violation of policy - not suspicion of molestation.

What do you think entails “suspicion” of sexual abuse of a boyscout?

And do you think they were correct in not reporting the suspicions to the authorities and instead keeping it in a secret file and allowing the suspicious molester to move on with a good record?


40 posted on 09/17/2012 2:56:38 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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