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I suppose he will claim he isn't flip flopping because the states will oversee the plans.
1 posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Obama said that at the convention knowing full well it was a lie. How long was that voucher thing in the pipeline; long before this speech I bet


2 posted on 09/08/2012 8:46:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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But does that mean those seniors have to pay thousands of dollars and/or use vouchers? Or is it just the states run it rather than the federal government? I didn’t see anything there that said seniors have to pay a lot of money and/or they had to use vouchers.


5 posted on 09/08/2012 9:02:59 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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“But back in Washington, his Health and Human Services Department is launching a pilot program that would shift up to 2 million of the poorest and most-vulnerable seniors out of the federal Medicare program and into private health insurance plans overseen by the states.”

Nope, that’s the HillaryRomney plan, to benefit the phony banking and insurance papers with no collateral, and the National Bureau Socialists. The plan all along.

The bailout pushed all along. Romney Massachusetts Extortion Care.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 9:04:03 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: chessplayer

It sounds like Medicaid.


8 posted on 09/08/2012 9:18:39 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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9 posted on 09/08/2012 9:25:39 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: chessplayer

I just heard a zero add on tv.

~a promise made ... You’ve payed in to it your whole life, don’t let Romney replace those funds with a voucher~

Twilight Zone


10 posted on 09/08/2012 9:32:53 PM PDT by JMJJR ( Newspeak is the official language of Oceania)
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Oh my if you cannot get their votes just kill em. My, my, this guy is trying to give the most evil men of world history a run for their dirty deeds done dirt cheap.


11 posted on 09/08/2012 9:32:53 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: chessplayer

To Ed Morrisey-Hotair:

Please source your quotes because without them, we cannot safely use this information in columns, emails, etc.

thanks


12 posted on 09/08/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: chessplayer

We need numbers to define the word “poor” here.


13 posted on 09/08/2012 9:51:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Obama has out-Cartered Carter and now he has out-Kerryed Kerry!

He was against Medicare vouchers before he was for them. What a fraud!

17 posted on 09/08/2012 10:53:07 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: chessplayer; Grampa Dave; budwiesest; ElkGroveDan; ScottinSacto; calif_reaganite; Liz; AuntB; ...
The only reason Obama and the Dummycrats hate Paul Ryan's proposal is that they refuse to let go of their "pride of authorship" since they instituted Medicare and Medicaid in the "Great Society" and they are uncontrollably jealous of ANY Republican EVER suggesting ANY changes to ANYTHING, whatsoever!!! Forever and ever!!!

They are so driven to make dependents of their "wards of the state" and control their lives that they have created these "dual elgibles" who are eligible for coverage of their every acute/serious medical need plus permanent, chronic illness long term nursing home/care homes and even home care/day care and then eligible for Medicare for acute care as well.

Of course this is liberal Democrat over-reach and they cannot tolerate Republicans giving any possible consideration of improvement and taking their "ownership" of this most popular program away from them. They will not share. Have you noticed how upset they were over the Republicans and Bush passing the Medicare Part D (Drugs) prescription enhancement? They were fried because it wasn't more expensive and left a gap (donut hole) in that coverage.

If Romney and Ryan can pull through on this election and implement these potentially good options without forcing anyone to leave original Medicare, It will create a fatal wound to the phony reputation Democrats unjustly enjoy of being more compassionate than Republicans. It will pave the way for far-reaching reform of entitlements far into the future and they know it and are very, very afraid!!!

18 posted on 09/08/2012 11:00:24 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Government it'self is the REAL "Free Rider!" Obamacare will create burdensome "Free Riding!!!")
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To: chessplayer

Then why has he limited the ability of women to 74 for Momo’s? Death Panels. I have very painful issues with them but for those who can tolerate them they should be there. MRI’s are actually cheaper in the long run as no false readings in the process witch means needless furthering testing. They are 100 % accurate and no false positive, vs the 97% testing of Mamos with lots of false positives.


19 posted on 09/09/2012 2:01:45 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: chessplayer

Outcomes are overall worst in government health care programs versus either private insurance or, more shockingly, no insurance at all.

Bureaucrats aren’t good at anything. Why give them a chance to run your health?


24 posted on 09/09/2012 7:06:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Apparently, many who back ObamaIdiot are either in perpetual denial or simply Kool-Aid drinking idiots given ObamaIdiot became POTUS based upon lies and is now attempting to gain a second term .... based upon lies. =.=


25 posted on 09/09/2012 2:19:10 PM PDT by cranked
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