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GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
RedState ^ | Tuesday August 28, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

At 2:00 p.m. today in Tampa, the Republican National Committee, led by Team Romney, is moving to shut down conservative grassroots activists. I’ve been on the phone with several individuals involved in the fight who tell me that the fight is not over, it is only just starting.

Specifically, the media is reporting that the rules fight is over because Team Romney is abandoning Ben Ginsberg’s effort to allow candidates to control delegates. Under an initial proposal, delegates would, in effect, be chosen by the presumed nominee’s campaign and not based on votes in the states and delegate selection processes in the states.

That issue appears resolved, but several people I’ve spoken to this morning make clear that Team Romney and the RNC establishment are using that compromise as a red herring to distract from two major rules change proposals that would decimate Republican grassroots and prevent upstart political campaigns.

Reports that the floor fight threat is over might be designed to calm the grassroots and get them to ignore what is coming at 2 o’clock.

The first rule to be proposed is one that would give the Republican National Committee the power to change rules between conventions with a three-quarters vote of the RNC. One source tells me, “With a Republican President, of course this is doable. Everybody will roll over if a President Romney asks them too. They’ll be able to get Ben Ginsberg’s proposal next year.”

In other words, if Team Romney prevails in this rules change, they don’t have to worry about Ben Ginsberg not getting his way today on the delegate changes. They’ll be able to do it later when the press and grassroots are not watching.

The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Lazamataz
I'll vote to destroy America first (in the form of voting for Barry)

Are you ready for the consequences? Hope you've got your 6 month's of ammo, food, water, and whatever meds you should be taking, but aren't.

161 posted on 08/28/2012 10:35:37 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Godzilla; Jim Robinson
Yup. They are purposely silencing conservatives. I bet the very first move out of the box for Romney would be the introduction of the Fairness Doctrine for the internet, effectively shutting down all conservative websites.
162 posted on 08/28/2012 10:36:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: Scooter100

Got what I need, n00b. Enjoy your chains, unless, of course, you are RINO scum yourself.


163 posted on 08/28/2012 10:37:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: Psalm 144

LOL, I’m right with ya’...


164 posted on 08/28/2012 10:37:56 AM PDT by mikrofon (Keep the Faith)
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To: Gene Eric

When you face it honestly Romney is not that different from Obama. I dislike individuals like Romney for the same reasons I do not like Obama. They are not thinking in terms of the constitution or the well being of hard working Americans. Nothing will change under Romney except the military receiving more funding.


165 posted on 08/28/2012 10:39:11 AM PDT by formosa
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To: 1scrappymom

“Time to start the TEA PARTY for real.”

Yes it is.


166 posted on 08/28/2012 10:39:58 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: jb729
“Daddy, if you don’t buy me an ice cream cone, I’m blowing up the house!! WAHHHHHHH!”

Let's be accurate, shall we?

“Daddy, if you put duct tape over my mouth and lock me in shackles in the basement, I’m running away from home! WAHHHHHHH!”

167 posted on 08/28/2012 10:40:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: jb729; Lazamataz

J., you are a poster child for a “useful idiot” category to your illustrious Establishment maneuvers, manipulations and machinations.

Brace yourself for your cliff fall of disappointment and betrayal.


168 posted on 08/28/2012 10:41:16 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: elfman2
One of my delegates doesn't seem to have entered the cell phone world yet. He's out of the office until September 5th. Left a voice mail for the other one.

This is what FreedomWorks is asking us to say:

Please call your state's Rules Committee delegates here and ask that they oppose the "compromise" on Rule 15, oppose Rule 12, and support the full Minority Reports on the Rules.

169 posted on 08/28/2012 10:42:50 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Scooter100
"Hope you've got your 6 month's of ammo, food, water.."

I think that's applicable to a O defeat as well lol.

170 posted on 08/28/2012 10:42:50 AM PDT by CygnusXI (Im back!)
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To: RitaOK

I am so upset that Romney is telegraphing he’s not going to go more mainstream, but way to the left.


171 posted on 08/28/2012 10:43:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: RitaOK

Oh Rita, I’ve already gone through that phase and braced myself for that. I judged that to be less painful than Obama. You can do whatever you want.


172 posted on 08/28/2012 10:44:33 AM PDT by jb729
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, I am not making excuses for them, I am just stating the excuses that I predict they will give.

There is something to this issue that I think is being over looked. It’s the influence of the Libertarians, who want to see the social conservatives, excluded. The Libertarians have been causing trouble at state conventions over “rules”. This is their M. O. The goal is simply to disrupt the convention and prevent real work from getting done.


173 posted on 08/28/2012 10:44:52 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Bigtigermike

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/mduncan/romney-camp-removing-rules-committee-members


174 posted on 08/28/2012 10:48:31 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Bigtigermike
Romney Camp Removing Rules Committee Members | FreedomWorks
175 posted on 08/28/2012 10:48:31 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Eva

It’s not being overlooked. This is a coalition of convenience between the Tea Party and the Paulites. Both of us lose if these rules pass. We will obviously have our separate battles with them in the future. But we both die on the battlefield today if these rules pass. Besides, if the Tea Party got more organized and mastered the delegate rules like the Paulites, we’d easily overwhelm them in numbers. They’re not much of a threat.


176 posted on 08/28/2012 10:49:36 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Bigtigermike

both of Florida’s Rules Committee members, Peter Feaman and Kathleen King, have been removed from the Rules committee and replaced with Romney-appointed delegates.

Clearly anticipating a grassroots backlash against the “compromise” on Rule 15 and the changes on Rule 12 has caused the Romney camp to preemptively replace delegates to ensure they have support on the Rules Committee.

It’s enough to make your blood boil. Please call your state’s Rules Committee delegates here and ask that they oppose the “compromise” on Rule 15, oppose the changes to Rule 12, and support the full Minority Reports on the Rules.

UPDATE: Delegations we should be focusing on include the following states: North Carolina, Oregon, Indiana, Ohio, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Tennessee, and West Virginia.


177 posted on 08/28/2012 10:49:52 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jedidah; Bigtigermike

It sounds to me, like a candidate’s campaign ought to be able to vet any delegate elected under their name. Seems like that should be done before they go on the ballot though.

I think letting rules changes be done outside of the conventions is dangerous and gives too much power to the GOP-e.


178 posted on 08/28/2012 10:50:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Eva

What Rove and Romney are doing is making sure that “a good crisis doesn’t go to waste.” The Paulite interference is being used to justify this massive power grab. It’s your classic Hitleresque/Obamaesque strategy. Use some jinned up “crisis” to stage a massive takeover by the central authority over individual freedom.


179 posted on 08/28/2012 10:51:08 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Lazamataz

Telegraph? Hell’s arrival! He is moon launching his own exhibition of mooning conservatives!

The poser is a ruse Republican inside and out, intent on leading his parade with our replacements-socialist dupes and disenchanted Obama Marxists, like you-know-who.


180 posted on 08/28/2012 10:53:05 AM PDT by RitaOK
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