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Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers
CNN ^ | Sat Aug 25, 2012 | David Ariosto, CNN

Posted on 08/25/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

New York (CNN) -- All nine people injured in Friday's shooting in front of the Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told reporters Saturday.

The officers unloaded a total of 16 rounds at a disgruntled former apparel designer, killing him after he shot and killed a co-worker and engaged in a gunbattle with police, authorities have said.

Police said an investigation is under way after one officer shot nine rounds while another shot seven. Three victims suffered gunshot wounds, while the remaining six were hit by fragments.

The gunman, who served in the U.S. Coast Guard in the late 1970s, had two rounds left in his .45-caliber pistol. It holds eight rounds, Kelly said.

The violence erupted Friday morning just as visitors began to queue up to ascend the famous New York skyscraper in one of Manhattan's busiest neighborhoods.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: nyc; nypd; shooting
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To: philman_36

Collateral damage w/ HPs would probably be even more ‘messy’ and not a ‘clean’ as FMJs. Just a guess.


161 posted on 08/25/2012 12:49:10 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: beenaround

“So tell me, what is it like?”

Pls cc me on that one, will ya?


162 posted on 08/25/2012 12:51:54 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: carriage_hill
They should take lessons from this armed granny, who kept her cool when faced with armed robbers...

65-year-old Woman Thwarts Robbery on Jewellery Store in Garden Grove, California

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltT0H3XNmzg

163 posted on 08/25/2012 12:54:47 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I remember that from a short while ago. Idiotic, bumbling feral-scum 0bummer boys.


164 posted on 08/25/2012 1:02:46 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: livius
The cops had no knowledge about whether he was planning to pull off an Aurora-style killing (which was also done with a .45, wasn’t it?) and unfortunately, in a situation like that, you have to react as fast as you can and take out the killer.

So why didn't they have their weapons drawn in such a dire situation?

Incidentally, all the folks here who have been calling for armed theater patrons who would have risen up and started blasting the Aurora killer...you’d have a lot more dead.

And you know this how?

Internet Cafe Customer Shoots 2 Robbers In Florida

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYA78ss-B-o

165 posted on 08/25/2012 1:05:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: carriage_hill

At least there has been some improvement by the NYPD.

They only used 16 rounds instead of 70 some-odd or was that another city?

It’s hard to keep up with all the goings on nowadays.


166 posted on 08/25/2012 1:05:27 PM PDT by A Voice (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: dragnet2

Good for you. To be able to laugh at own mistakes as you have yours is a sign there is still hope.

Stay strong.


167 posted on 08/25/2012 1:22:28 PM PDT by beenaround
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To: livius

Read the article again.

The perp was hit three times not seven.

Also from the article:

“The police commissioner said the suspect pulled his gun out of his briefcase as the officers approached, pointing at them. “

Doesn’t sound like “an Aurora-style killing.” In fact it was a premeditated homicide where the perp killed his intended victim and was walking away. It was the police who turned it into Aurora redux.


168 posted on 08/25/2012 1:23:07 PM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: carriage_hill

Triggernometry! somebody has to repeat the class because that many misses is a failing grade. It would be good to get Bloomberg in the same class since he misses every time he shoots his mouth off.


169 posted on 08/25/2012 1:25:18 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: carriage_hill

yeah, that is ridiculous. Where is the calm one to two shot accuracy? Jeeze, these guys are police, not regular professionals!


170 posted on 08/25/2012 1:26:11 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Gay State Conservative
I was in NYC not long ago and there was this young cop just standing there near the Javitz Center...female,kinda cute...so I got talking with her,I asked her if she had ever heard of Car 54 and she said "no".I proceeded to sing the intro song for her.I was just in a silly mood,I guess.
Car 54 Theme


Ohhhh GSC, this is very disturbing, because I am one of those few Americans (I think the numbers are few, lol) who likewise remember ALL the words and the melody of the theme from 'Car 54', it is actually a very unique slice of Americana because the line 'Khrushchev's due at Idlewilde' refers to a time BEFORE that airport was renamed 'Kennedy International' post JFK-assassination. And few people seem to know that Fred Gwynne went on to play Herman Munster and that Al Lewis likewise went on from Car 54 to 'The Munsters'.

Ahhh, life's grand pageantry, lol
171 posted on 08/25/2012 1:46:02 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: carriage_hill
Collateral damage w/ HPs would probably be even more ‘messy’...
Only if you miss your target.
172 posted on 08/25/2012 2:29:57 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: carriage_hill

Mine is a Springfield XD 45 cal, and it too absorbs the recoil, with some movement back towards my body, then right back on target for the double tap. And I especially like the magazine...13+1.


173 posted on 08/25/2012 2:42:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: beenaround

It’s time to put some flares and cones around your comments.

Take care.


174 posted on 08/25/2012 2:43:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: carriage_hill

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176 posted on 08/25/2012 2:55:06 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2922729/posts

Check out the video on the other thread. The officer in the upper left isn’t shooting at the perp. Looks like he has chosen the wrong target.
Anyone else think this?


177 posted on 08/25/2012 3:03:22 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: dervish

He came around the corner, chased by two construction workers, turned around and pulled his gun on the police. I’m sure, if it had not jammed, he would have killed as many people as he could have. He was angry and he was trying to do suicide by cop (and later reports have said that he was hit seven times).

You sound like you’re in the “but why couldn’t they shoot the gun out of his hand” crowd.

Whenever there’s firing in a crowd, people other than the intended victim are going to get hurt. Guns aren’t magic.


178 posted on 08/25/2012 3:04:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: cornfedcowboy

On response to my earlier post, I now think I am wrong. After the weapon is done being fired it does appear that the officer was definitely hitting the perp.


179 posted on 08/25/2012 3:07:08 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Mine is a Springfield XD 45 cal, and it too absorbs the recoil, with some movement back towards my body, then right back on target for the double tap.

I second the motion. These things must be treated with magic pixie dust before leaving the factory.

Despite a higher bore axis, XDs consistently gave me more accurate "double taps" than any of my Glocks. So much so, that I immediately traded off three different Glocks for equivalent Springfields.

180 posted on 08/25/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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