Social Security Administration Explains Plan to Buy 174,000 Hollow-Point Bullets

CNS News ^ | August. 16, 2012 | Penny Starr

[Free ThinkerNY]

(CNSNews.com) – The Social Security Administration posted a blog on Thursday to explain why it was planning to purchase 174,000 hollow point bullets.

SSA posted a "Request for Quote for Ammunition" on the FedBizOps.gov website on Aug. 7. The request listed the commodity that SSA desired as ".357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition." The quantity listed was "174 TH."

The SSA’s Office of the Inspector General’s said it posted a new blog on the agency’s website, “Beyond the Numbers,” “as we strive to be a transparent and accountable government organization for all of our stakeholders.

“With those goals in mind, we thought it would be appropriate to address recent media reports regarding the organization’s purchase of ammunition for our special agents’ duty weapons,” the blog post states.

The blog states that the SSA has 295 special agents who work in 66 offices across the United States.

“These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests,” the blog post states. “Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers.

“They use traditional investigative techniques, and they are armed when on official duty,” the blog post states.

[mylife]

Apparently SSA prefers 357 Sig.

[Bob]

“...357 Sig ?”

WTF ?

The .357 Sig is a cartridge for semiautomatics, as opposed to the .357 Magnum which is used in revolvers.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

The .357 Sig cartridge was created in an attempt to get .357 Magnum bullet performance from a semi-automatic handgun. The .357 is only a revolver cartridge. The .357 Sig uses the same bullets and was created to try to mimic the Magnum's stellar performance.

Here is a comparison of the .357 Sig cartridge against the .357 magnum. The shorter .357 Sig is on the left. It's a great round.

.357 Sig.

Size comparison of .357 Sig and .357 Magnum. Sig on left, Magnum on right.

Size comparison of .357 Sig and 9mm.

Ballistic comparison.

[mylife]

I think the FBI went from 10mm to 40S&W because some of the smaller agents could not handle 10mm.

40 is just a shortened 10, and you are right, the 40S&W has some muzzle serious rise.

[penelopesire]

Well if they are serious about SS fraud, they should start at 1600 penn ave. Sounds like Obama is making his domestic army right under the noses of congress..well armed union goons and government workers.

[mylife]

That is a serious wound channel.

[butterdezillion]

I reported his fraudulent COLB to the FBI. They’re a bad, bad joke.

As long as we’ve got Eric Holder in law enforcement and all Obama’s buddies at the heads of the executive agencies, there will be no rule of law. The only people who will ever be prosecuted for crimes are people Obama wants to get rid of.

But it probably wouldn’t hurt to let the bureaucrats know we know they’re not doing their jobs because they’ve been told they can’t...

[mo]

Why can’t the FBI investigate SS fraud issues? What is this with agencies “self-policing”? If there such problems with SS, I want the FBI or an OUTSIDE organization in there figuring out what’s really happening...not that in any way our employees at the SS agency might contruct things such that they would need to be swept under the carpet .../s

[Farmer Dean]

Use that load in combat during war and you would violate the Geneva Convention.But it's OK to shoot American citizens with it?

[Let's Roll]

“Since Social Security fraud seems to be rampant, it can be said that these folks aren’t working too hard on the arresting part.”

Bears repeating.

[JimC214]

They went to the 40 because too many woman agents were complaining that the 10MM kicked to hard. And since they wanted something more powerful then a 9MM, the 40 was the answer.

[GBA]

Maybe this is a part of building obama's "Civilian National Security Force" he told us about back in 2008:

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

[JerseyanExile]

I suspect that training uses up a significant amount of ammunition each year.

[JerseyanExile]

They have armed security guards at many of their facilities and have for years. One can debate the need for this (especially when there is already a security force run by another agency that is supposed to handle security for all administrative buildings), but it isn’t a grand conspiracy.

[TennesseeGirl]

When did the SSA, NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), and NWS (National Weather Service) get their own police? I can understand DHS and ICE placing orders, but the SSA and the Weather Service?????

[MileHi]

“These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests,” the blog post states. “Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers.

The hell they are like State or local police. The are Federal tax collectors. If they need police, they can notify the county sheriff to assist and show cause.

[null and void]

Use that load in combat during war and you would violate the Geneva Convention.But it's OK to shoot American citizens with it?

Yes. Of course. Why wouldn't it be? Do I REALLY need a </sarc> tag???

[Chode]

The blog states that the SSA has 295 special agents who work in 66 offices across the United States.

“These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests,” the blog post states. “Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers.

SINCE WHEN???

[IM2MAD]

How much would 174K of those cost?

[kitchen]

NOAA justified their buy with the claim that their fish cops have to fire ~700 rounds to qualify, and carry 100 rounds in their kit. Some apparently have more than one firearm. Rounds up to about 1k per gun.

I know many people who shoot over 1k each week practicing for SASS, 3 gun, bowling pins, etc. Not me, mind you - I lost my entire collection in a tragic ice fishing accident.