You are forgetting Big Gay Al from Southpark. He was great with kids.
Posted on 08/08/2012 5:27:53 AM PDT by IbJensen
WASHINGTON, D.C., August 7, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Mitt Romney stands by a 1994 statement that the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) should admit homosexuals to the organization, as members or adult supervisors, according to a campaign spokesperson.
During a 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy, Romney said, “I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”
Campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul confirmed that Mitt Romney continues to hold that belief today.
However, she said Romney, who served as a member of its executive board, has not pressured the organization to change its stance and does not wish to see the Scouts forced to accept homosexuals. LifeSiteNews.com revealed that some chapters of the Boy Scouts do not consider the national organization’s prohibition of homosexuals serving as scouts or adult leaders binding policy.
The statement came just days after Romney refused to lend verbal support to Chick-fil-A in the face of a boycott.
“It is almost as if the governor is going out of his way to de-motivate the conservative base,” said Bryan Fischer, who hosts “Focal Point” on the American Family Radio Talk network. “In fact, if he deliberately set out to dispirit evangelicals and members of the pro-family network, he could hardly do any worse.”
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Homosexual organizations seized upon the campaign statement. Zach Wahls, co-founder of Scouts for Equality, an organization dedicated to admitting homosexuals into the Scouts, said in a press release he is “proud to have Governor Romney’s support on this issue amid such a polarized political climate.”
The liberal website ThinkProgress claims the ban is “out-of-step” with “mainstream American values.”
Fischer said Romney’s position had more serious defects. “Social research has revealed that homosexuals sexually offend against minors at exaggerated rates.”
“In fact, according to research published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, they are ten times more likely to molest children than heterosexual men,” he said. “Gov. Romney’s position, if adopted by the BSA, would put the sexual innocence of untold numbers of young boys at risk.”
The move carries political implications for a candidate struggling to attract his party’s base.
“If the Democratic Party is going to take a stand for homosexual marriage and the Republican Party wont stand up for traditional marriage, then they’re abdicating their role in the culture war,” said former Reagan adviser Pat Buchanan. He added in time, if left unchecked, “people are going to walk away from the party.”
That is what it looks to me like he has been doing, although a few ABBOs pinged me a few days ago to tell me that Romney is crushing Obama WHOOOPIE.
Romney still seems to be running on:
“ Don't worry about me, the economy is bad so I know you will vote for me NO MATTER who I am ”.
Obama is running on :
“ You cant trust Romney because all he cares about is making money and his rich fat-cat friends and he will raise your taxes to pay for tax cuts for the rich and he is a slave to the Tea party and took their terrible positions even though he wont talk about them or defend them because he knows you will hate them and him too. ”
So far this isnt much of race. If this keeps up Romney causing problems as POTUS will not be a possiblity.
You are forgetting Big Gay Al from Southpark. He was great with kids.
xzins and other FRiends,
Is there a RISK that Romney will not live up to our highest expectations? Yes.
Is there a CERTAINTY that Obama will continue deploying policies designed to destroy America? Yes!
Did those “Conservatives”, who found they were too self-righteous to vote for McCain in 2008, thereby HELP America? No.
Did those “Conservatives”, who found they were too self-righteous to vote for McCain in 2008, thereby ENSURE that a candidate more to their liking would be nominated in 2012? I guess not!
So I’d appreciate it someone could explain to me how attacking Romney now will save America from Obama’s second term...
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/08/08/the-moment-all-the-doubts-about-romney-resurfaced-on-the-right/
Same spokeswoman as with the boy scout statement.
Now we know that Mitt thinks RomneyCare is AOK.
There must be a village someplace in massachusetts missing an idiot.
In any case, in just the last 3 months Romney has come out in favor of:
gay couples
gay adoption
gun control
RomneyCare/government health care
silence on freedom of religion/speech
Let me suggest, pfony, that Romney is doing his level best to lose this election. As this article points out, he has social conservatives so demoralized/dispirited that they are not going to be out working for him, if they'll even vote for him.
He might as well have slapped us in the face.
They can go form their own organizations and have their own little recruiting parties.
I have “zero tolerance” for anyone messing with kids. To my mind, if someone is caught molesting a child, he should be beaten to within an inch of his life. The mental damage done to a child is lifelong - all because of some selfish deviant’s momentary (or repetitive in the case of Sandusky) act.
We still have a First Amendment right of free association. And we need to jealously guard and defend it, and close ranks around the Boy Scouts to help them.
There was a time in this country when Men wouldn’t put up with this sh*t. It’s time to bring that back.
There is no line to be drawn with this sack of crap.
I don’t see one of them worth the price of the gasoline to drive the 4 miles to the polls.
I will go to get Obama out of the White House, that is my goal.
CAN you quote your source?
I’m not sure if he made a recent comment, he may have, but I found an instance where he did it in 1994. Is that what this is about?
I don’t approve of it either way, but it sure sheds new light on the subject.
We can’t talk about what Obama did past noon yesterday, and yet we can go back 18 years on Romney.
[ When I say we, I’m referencing the nation at large, the DNCp ]
Evidently, if you can believe the DNCp he still holds the same view.
This all stemmed from that 1994 comment I mentioned, and a reporter asked the campaign if he still held the same beliefs.
I wonder if they’ll get around to asking Obama if he still holds the same views concering Mary Jane and blow.
“...When I say we, I’m referencing the nation at large...”
I understand, D-1.
Here’s my point: Romney says something like this, but doesn’t push a LAW mandating it.
This current POS would, if he thought he could get away with it. He’s laying low because of the flack he took from the black churches over the queer marriage thing. He’s perfectly content with letting Romney take flak for something he himself supports.
People can say what they want about the Dems, but they fight to win this war.
“Our” side just twists with the wind over and over. And it’s getting old...very old.
“...I wonder if they’ll get around to asking Obama if he still holds the same views concering Mary Jane and blow....”
Doubt it.
They’ll ask him such in-depth, penetrating questions like “WHAT is yer favorite color...?”
“WHAT is the average airspeed velocity of a swallow [African or European?]”
“WHAT is yer name?”
And of course, he’ll need a teleprompter to answer...
I agree with your thoughts on this. We both know Romney isn’t worth a hill of beans, but it does bother me to see the DNCp act as if Obama is.
Romney isn’t worth a hill of beans, but Obama is certainly a mound of used beans.
Here’s a note of levity: This is Obama...
Click on the graphic to enlarge. [ Michael Ramirez ]
Click left and right arrow top right corner to scroll through more. Be patient...
http://www.gocomics.com/michaelramirez/2012/05/15
Politicians are puffed-up, narcissistic fools. Just look at the Chicago sewer rat holed up in the White Hut.
They cater to the pedestaled homosexuals like they’re some exhaulted constituency that must never be riled. Of course they treat muslims pretty much the same way.
Perhaps they don’t understand just who their consituency is much like the CEO of Amazon and his wifey donating 2.5 million to the sodomist cause and believing there won’t be a backlash as though their largest customer base was the gaggle of homosexuals who contaminate America.
“And if they admited homosexual adults, I can guarantee you my son wouldn’t be anywhere near them.”
This is what I don’t understand. How do you explain why it’s OK to admit gay Scouts but then turn around and deny homosexual men the chance to serve as Scout leaders? Yet if the latter happened, many parents would be quite reluctant to let their sons go into scouting.
On a related point, would Mitt Romney favor letting male and female adolescent Scouts share the same tent overnight? Presumably not. So why would it be a good idea to let a straight and gay adolescent share the same tent overnight? The reality is that Scouting inevitably entails some intimacy of contact especially on overnight activities. Most straight Scouts aren’t going to be comfortable viewed by individuals who may have a sexual attraction to them whether it be undressing for bedtime in a tent or for swimming etc. I’m pretty sure there would be an uproar if equal rights advocates insisted that females be permitted to join Boy Scouts or vice versa. And the legitimate reason to deny females membership has nothing to do with their abilities, but everything to do with the undesirability of encouraging unwanted sexual contact even if it is only visual in nature.
That reason is equally applicable to gay Scouts. If someone wants to start Gay Scouts of America, all power to them. But that is a far different proposition than forcing heterosexual Scouts to be (literally) exposed to gay Scouts against their will.
Everytime I cross over the line to full ABO thinking regardless of my dissatisfaction with Romney he pulls the legs out from under me yet again.
Even if he beats ABO, he’s not going to change a damn thing and instead of destroying the country in 4 years he’ll do it in 6-8 years.
I’m afraid we are doomed. And we have no country to move to.
Let’s face it, it comes down to individual states. We conservatives need to take as many states as possible (KS made great moves in their primary yesterday) and force Congress to move in their direction.
Pass as many conservative ideas and scream 9th and 10th amendment. Then ignore federal courts trying to stop them. Let those judges enforce their rulings!
My viewpoint exactly.
I wasn’t going to vote for him, and only recently figured I’d have to force myself, just to get rid of 0kaka. But now - no way, I cannot force my self to vote for Romney, I’d choke to death on my own vomit.
Just see this for what it is. This is put out by Obama. I saw on the Huffington Post today this quote from Obama:“The President believes the Boy Scouts is a valuable organization that has helped educate and build character in American boys for more than a century,” White House spokesperson Shin Inouye said. “He also opposes discrimination in all forms, and as such opposes this policy that discriminates on basis of sexual orientation.” Why do you suppose he put out the same statement they dug up from Romney? I’m saddened to see that you are giving this the exact outcome they hoped for.
I am sure there are more learned Scouters on this forum, but here goes:
I am an Eagle Scout, my two sons are Eagles, and I have been a registered Scout or Leader for over 40 years. I have attended a lot of training classes, including Commissioner’s College, and was the point person with Sen. Jesse Helms’ office when he wrote the Boy Scouts’ equal access to rent school property law.
There are two rules in the BSA that are at issue here. The first is that no leader can have a conversation with anyone under 18 about anything sexual. You cannot ever talk about it with a youth or you, as a leader, will be permanently expelled.
The second rule is that Scouts cannot be sexually active.
The combination of the two rules creates a situation similar to don’t ask - don’t tell, HOWEVER, it also implies that if a leader is confronted with undeniable third-party proof that a Scout is sexually active (Susy is preggers and Scout Johnny admits paternity and it is “common knowledge”), then the Scout should be investigated for expulsion. If a leader finds out about Johnny and Susy, they are instructed to contact the Council Executive and report the matter. The leader is then suspended until the investigation is concluded (no big deal). A trained team takes over the investigation and includes experts from BSA Texas HQ. Most scouts in this situation resign quietly and there is not further action.
The rules apply to straight and homosexual Scouts equally.
The rules for adult leaders are different and are meant to prevent homosexuals from becoming leaders. The Catholic priest scandals have given the BSA a lot of cover here.
So, our Troop, with over 100 Eagles, has has some Eagles come back and tell us (when they are over 18), that they are homosexuals. Our position is absolutely neutral and they know they cannot return as leaders. The BSA rule is “Once an Eagle, always an Eagle”, so we let it go. After all, they are adults and we have zero authority at that point.
On a personal level, if a former Scout (now an adult) asks for advice, we can individually decide to guide him toward counseling, but that is not a BSA call.
Hope this helps.
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