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Swing states give Obama the edge
The Hill ^ | 07/30/2012 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 07/30/2012 2:41:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Obama has an overall edge in the 12 decisive battleground states that is measurably greater than his advantage in national polling.

The dynamic, which may reflect a combination of lower swing-state unemployment rates and demographic advantages for the president, is causing stirrings of unease among Republicans, even as they emphasize that it is important not to read too much into the state of the race right now.

“Obama is concentrating his considerable early resources and messaging in the swing states, and it’s had an impact,” said Mark McKinnon, who served as a media adviser for President George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns.

But McKinnon added that Republican candidate Mitt Romney was “raising and saving his money to ensure he won’t be out-punched in the final rounds.” The crucial battleground states number about a dozen: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Taking the polling averages used by Nate Silver in the New York Times, the president is ahead in 10 of the 12 vital states. If those polls were borne out on Election Day, Obama would coast to victory with 332 electoral college votes. Only 270 votes are needed to win the presidency.

Awarding Obama only the states in which he now leads by 3 percentage points or more in the polling averages still sees him safely home.

By that measure, as of last Friday, he would win 8 of the 12 battlegrounds, for a total of 290 electoral votes.

Romney victories in Florida, Missouri, North Carolina and Virginia leaves the Republican marooned on 248 electoral votes.

Strategists including Karl Rove have, in recent months, noted that Romney’s path to victory is challenging one in terms of the electoral map.

Now, Democrats are citing the same argument to justify guarded confidence.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bs; dnctalkingpoints; obama; obamapolls; polls; romney; swingstates; zogbyism
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To: 3Fingas
“We could have another election where one candidate wins the popular vote and the other the electoral vote.”

I have to disagree on that one. I think Romney will beat Lil Barry in more states but Lil Barry will win in the states with more electoral votes. The population centers, hence more electoral votes. Take a look at the electoral map at Real Clear Politics. Color 6 -10 of the gray states blue and Obama wins. This country will look like a sea of red with a large blue border. Of course if it goes the other, we will have rioting in most of the large cities.

21 posted on 07/30/2012 3:04:37 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: cableguymn

>> must remember to proof read more than once

Well, you were sort of right the first time... the MOST important poll IS taken in November. Early November, not late, but you got the month right. :-)


22 posted on 07/30/2012 3:08:38 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The state polls are all relying on 2008 turnouts/party id.

It’s statistically impossible for Romney to be up 3-4 nationally and down 8 in a state like Ohio.


23 posted on 07/30/2012 3:09:22 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Wishful thinking from Niall Stanage.

Evidently, Stanage has forgotten November of 2010. And that Obama has been spending far more (War on Women, Bain, “You Didn’t Build That!”) than he’s been taking in on his anemic, cross country fund raisers on the tax payer’s dime. Which is why Senate Dems will scream for another QE (III or IV, I forget) around Labor Day. To pay off Obama’s foreign, union and special interest cronies.

If the economy keeps the way it is or drops between now and November. Obama will lose in a landslide. If not, Obama will still lose. Badly!


24 posted on 07/30/2012 3:09:41 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since Walker turned Wisconsin around I don’t see Odungo taking Wisconsin.


25 posted on 07/30/2012 3:10:01 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: nhwingut

Yup....these polls are cooked. It’s obvious.


26 posted on 07/30/2012 3:10:50 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: nhwingut

Current polling, from reputable firms, only give Romney an edge in Florida, Missouri, and a scant one in North Carolina from that list of twelve. They are not enough.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 3:12:35 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Tupelo

Either way, we might still require divine intervention.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 3:12:35 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish we had a better candidate. Still, the only poll that matters will take place November 6.


29 posted on 07/30/2012 3:17:44 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

The key to the election is, as is well known, the independents. The rule for an election is that the undecided will break for the challenger if the incumbent cannot make the case for his/her election. Obama has yet to exceed 50% in any poll that I have seen recently. I am watching Fox’s Special Report right now and they have Obama at 280. I do not believe it and instead believe that Obama is losing it.


30 posted on 07/30/2012 3:17:57 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And where is Romney? In Poland. Three months before the election. This guy really needs to step up the campaign.


31 posted on 07/30/2012 3:20:02 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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To: Tupelo

It is still early, and once the olympics is done, then the conventions, Romney will begin to pull ahead.


32 posted on 07/30/2012 3:20:01 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind
A couple weeks ago Romney was ahead in swing states.

Probably that was among likely voters which is a more accurate poll.

33 posted on 07/30/2012 3:23:51 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ingtar

Assuming that Romney can hold Colorado, it will come down to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Virginia, and Ohio. If he can take Florida, Romney will need to take either Pennsylvania or any two of Ohio, Virginia and Wisconisin. If I were a resident of any of these states, I wouldn’t watch television or listen to the radio between Labor Day and Election Day. Inundation is not too strong a term to describe what will happen in these states during that period of time.


34 posted on 07/30/2012 3:29:33 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Ingtar

These polls, by & large, are using 2008 turnout figures. Different world in 2012.


35 posted on 07/30/2012 3:33:20 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: CountryClassSF

Romney could be tap dancing naked in Times Square and the majority of voters would never know it, because they are not paying attention. Most don’t even bother to think about it until a couple of weeks before the election.


36 posted on 07/30/2012 3:36:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind

10 out of 12 Swinger states?


37 posted on 07/30/2012 3:36:59 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: SeekAndFind
But McKinnon added that Republican candidate Mitt Romney was “raising and saving his money to ensure he won’t be out-punched in the final rounds.” The crucial battleground states number about a dozen: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Romney takes Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. That puts it at 295-243.

38 posted on 07/30/2012 3:37:16 PM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: SeekAndFind

I do not normally turn to profanity but......

WTF is wrong with this country???

Too many takers, not enough makers!!


39 posted on 07/30/2012 3:38:45 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: SuziQ

However,Obama could pick his nose and flick it at the camera. The MSM would report it as sheer genius.


40 posted on 07/30/2012 3:39:13 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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