Posted on 07/30/2012 10:25:30 AM PDT by tobyhill
The Democratic Party has added new language endorsing gay marriage in its platform draft, the Washington Blade reports. Sen. Harry Reid said in May that he believed the party would alter its platform in favor of gay marriage,
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>Still voting third party for president, but will vote Republican for congress.
Obama loves voters that throw away their chance to vote him out by voting for people/parties that are meaningless except to the ego...
Its okay. I will do what is best for America - you do what you believe is best for you.
Obama loves voters that throw away their chance to vote him out by voting for people/parties that are meaningless except to the ego...
I don’t know that principles = ego. Pragmatism should never,IMHO, trump deeply held convictions.
No I'm voting against same sex marriage. Despite the republican platform, look at Romney's actions. There is a reason the Lamestream media pushed for Romney, they now have a liberal democrat nominated by both main parties.
no matter how you sugar coat it, ANY third party vote is a defacto vote for Obama.
If you want the federal marriage amendment to end the homosexual nonsense, then you need to have a candidate with coattails that will bring in the senate and house in super majorities. The president is not a factor, other than the pulpit, in the voting.
See post 24.
I understand you. You are voting for the lesser of two severe evils, because you fear that voting for someone who represents your values will be a wasted vote. I don't think either candidate is good for America. So I'm voting for someone different.
If enough of us vote third party, then perhaps next election either the GOP will take us serious or our third party will continue to grow until the GOP is irrelevant.
This is pretty blatant and an undeniable support of perversion to any libs who heretofore had been deluding themselves on where the Dems, as a Party, stand. I just can’t see how this could NOT cause a backlash. Maybe not a highly visible and massive one, but still a backlash of some kind. At the least, handled properly, it gives more ammunition in one on one debates with our friends and relatives who are not too far gone:
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“Aside from the horrendous economy, let’s talk about a couple of things at stake here...”
“The Dems officially support abortion on demand. Suppose we start with a physical description of abortion—what we are really talking about here?...”
“The Dems also officially support ‘gay marriage’. Suppose, again, we start with a physical description of gay sex—what we are really talking about here?...”
“So anyway, this is the party you support? Just askin’...”
Truth offends, and it especially offends those whose worldview is based on lies.
Describing the truth of abortion, or what homosexuality actually is, is very “offensive”. And when you offend with the truth, the left, like drug addicts or alcoholics, try to make YOU out to be the bad guy for telling the truth.
If I can open the eyes of at least a few with the facts, I can live with that. I’m way past too old to care what people think of me when I stand up for the truth.
I'm indifferent between Obama and Romney. They are both uber liberals. There is no difference.
If you want the federal marriage amendment to end the homosexual nonsense, then you need to have a candidate with coattails that will bring in the senate and house in super majorities.
Based on Romney's actions as governor (see post 24) I see Romney vetoing a federal marriage amendment.
I don't see Romney as having any coat tails at all. And once he actualy starts revealing his true self, he is going to be a liability to the GOP.
History indicates that whichever party wins the Whitehouse, tends to lose seats in the following congressional elections. So if Obama wins in 2012, the GOP will advance in the House and Senate in 2014. If Romney wins in 2012, the Democrats will advance in 2014.
What's more, if Romney wins in 2012, he'll be the GOP nominee in 2016. It'll be 2020 before we can get even a moderate much less a conservative in the Whitehouse.
If Obama wins, you already have a house that is standing up to him a little. It would help if the GOP gains the senate, then and only then will the house be able to do much. The Supreme Court has stood up to Obama a little, they blocked the medicaid portion of Obamacare.
If Romney wins, you'll have establishment republicans rubber stamping any kind of liberal agenda in the name of GOP unity.
The MSM will not report this.
Those useful idiot union rank and file types will never know they have been sold into slavery to the village people.
It seems to me that Obama and the Dems are promoting a lot if issues now for the sake of fundraising from their high dollar activist base (like gays and Hollywood).
Which has me worried about them possibly having an October Surprise up their sleves that they know will lead voters to ignore/forget the gay marriage and other Left extremism ... so long as the have enough money to saturate the airwaves when the Oct Surprise drops.
Establishment.
I checked the GOP platform and it looks okay.
Then they have to change it if they are to be honest. When they selected Romney as their 'chosen' candidate - he represents what their platform is.
So either Romney has to step down as the imposter than he is or the GOP needs to add to their platform socialistic health and same sex marriage - otherwise they are misrepresenting themself.
Would you be a Republican if they were for same sex marriage, pro abortion, socialistic healthcare, gun grabbing YET they expect you to vote for it. - they didn't support THEIR OWN KIND, one who stood on their platform!
“If enough of us vote third party, then perhaps next election either the GOP will take us serious or our third party will continue to grow until the GOP is irrelevant.”
Nice. By the time that happens what kind of country do you expect to be living in? It won’t be recognizable, IMO.
Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't be Republican if Romney represented the whole party's values. Fortunately, it seems clear that there is a disconnect between the GOP and the GOP-E.
Rather than change platforms, I'd rather see the GOP change the GOP-E.
I'll still be voting Republican for Congress, though I'll be reviewing my candidates votes carefully. But I can't vote Republican for President.
But it’s still the GOP and Romney initiated both same sex marriage and socialistic healthcare in MA - he doesn’t just agree with it. The GOP are frauds and misrepresentation themselves to voters.
Romney’s accomplishments do NOT line up at all with the GOP platform. Higher taxes/fees in MA, gun grabbing, appt of liberal judges = I could go on -
It’s more than just not voting for him - we have a party that deliberately chose a candidate totally opposite of their platform. Hope the delegates understand this.
HE DID in MA!! Isn't that why he feels qualified to run - because he was governor. His record there is LIBERAL to the core!
...I dont know that principles = ego. Pragmatism should never,IMHO, trump deeply held convictions.
You can put that on the grave of America if you ever get that chance.
I will work to see that you never do...
Dream on - because that is all that will ever come to.
A forgotten footnote in a forgotten dream.
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