Maybe the internet will finally wipe-out the democrats.
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Posted on 07/29/2012 12:55:44 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
White House admits it did return Winston Churchill bust to Britain
Barack Obama's White House has been forced to admit that it did return a bust of Sir Winston Churchill to British diplomats, after describing such claims as "100 per cent false".
By Jon Swaine, Washington
7:53PM BST 29 Jul 2012
Aides to Mr Obama were furious after The Daily Telegraph disclosed last week that Mitt Romney planned to restore the Jacob Epstein sculpture to its home under George W Bush from 2001 to 2009.
"I'm looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again," the Republican challenger confirmed at a fund-raiser at London's Mandarin Oriental hotel.
Dan Pfeiffer, the President's communications director, said in a statement that widespread reports of the bust being returned to Britain's embassy in Washington as Mr Obama took office were untrue.
"This is 100 per cent false," Mr Pfeiffer said. "The bust is still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room". Illustrating his statement with a photograph of Mr Obama inspecting it with David Cameron in 2010, he added: "Hopefully this clears things up a bit and prevents folks from making this ridiculous claim again".
British officials were surprised by Mr Pfeiffer's statement and photograph, however, because the bust now resides in the residence of Sir Peter Westmacott, Britain's ambassador to the US. Further inquiries led to the discovery that there are, in fact, two matching Churchill busts by Epstein.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
They went from “so patently false” to admitting it?
I guess the MSM will make hay out of this... never mind
Does not make sense. The original bust was returned after restoration, presumably before Bush’s term ended. The loaner went back when Bush left office. Presumably Bush left the original in the Oval Office.
Zero then moved it out, to the Residence.
Now, I don’t know which version of all this is most accurate. But there’s so much distortion, including some from our side, out there, that I don’t know whom to believe.
If the upthread comments are correct, then there can’t be anything to the claim that the British Government offered it to Zero for four more years.
Unless: the restoration was not completed before Bush left, Zero sent the loaner back with all the other loaned art from Bush’s terms, which is normal. So for a time, Zero had no Churchhill bust at all, then the restored original arrived and he put it in the Residence???
All I can say is that there are so many conflicting versions of what happened that I think we need to wait for some kind of clarity.
Unless the upthread comment is also distorted?
Maybe the internet will finally wipe-out the democrats.
.......................... FRegards
Everybody knows you can’t have a bust of Winston Churchill and an Islamic prayer rug in the same room!
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Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where Obama told him that He was still a Muslim, and that he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/647/Egyptian_minister:_Obama_told_me_he_is_a_Muslim.html
From the article you posted the link to:
“But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: “Thanks, but no thanks.””
The British offered to extend the loaner for another four year term in the Oval Office and the Obamator refused. The statement remains unproven that Obama didn’t return the bust out of spite or antipathy.
“Mr. Krauthammer, who knows of what he speaks, refers only to the bust returned from the Oval House, a well documented event. Mr. Pfieffer tries to conflate the two busts. He argues on the evidence of the permanent bust that stories of loaned bust’s return are 100% false. The loaned bust, as confirmed by both the WH curator and the British embassy, was in fact returned to the British and is no longer within the precincts of the White House as Mr. Pfieffer’s original post argues. Next Mr. Pfieffer moves on to the return itself. Nothing to it, he says, common practice, any suggestion to the contrary is 100% false. Whatever the common practice for the disposition of loaned art for the incoming administration, the British government stepped outside the practice offering to extend the Bush-loan of the Epstein bronze. That same government confirmed that the offer was declined by Mr. Obama, which is to say it was not returned as a blind common practice, but in accordance with Mr. Obama’s direction.
What is conspicuously missing from Mr. Pfieffer’s update is his admission that Mr. Krauthammer was correct about the bronze on loan and he, Mr. Pfieffer, was wrong on the facts. All wrong, 100% wrong.”
http://www.e-nough.hmdnsgroup.com/archives/003413.html
The "non" and cartoon is sitting in the White House. Obama and his sycophants can lie from anywhere on any subject.
They lie about big things and lie about the little things just as well. They lie about everything.
Inquisitive press corps?
It was reported by SpewsWeak 4 weeks after the inauguration. Here it is:
"Busted: The Churchill Flap (Obama sends W. Churchill's
bust BACK to England) Newsweek ^ | Feb 20, 2009 7:00 PM EST | Katie Connolly
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 10:37:02 AM by scottdeus12
Has America's even- tempered new president already ruffled feathers in the land that spawned Borat and Benny Hill? That's certainly how the spiky British press responded after the White House sent back to the British Embassy a bust of Sir Winston Churchill that had occupied a cherished spot in President Bush's Oval Office. Intended as a symbol of transatlantic solidarity, the bust was a loaner from former British prime minister Tony Blair following the September 11 attacks. A bust of Abraham Lincoln—Obama's historical hero—now sits in its place. A White House spokesperson says the Churchill bust was removed before Obama's inauguration as part of the usual changeover operations, adding that every president puts his own stamp on the Oval Office.
(Excerpt) Read more at Newsweek.com [theDailyBeast.com] ..."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192025/posts
As we see here, the Commies from Newsweek who reported it, and which was on Obama's orders to have the bust of Winston Churchill removed before he took up residence.
U R Confused. Reread the stories.
No!
It's a very real lesson.
If, as I expect, your rendition is accurate, it is clear proof that the current resident's first impulse is to LIE.
It is particularly egregious when there is no reason for the lie. The repair, return of a loan, and continued presence of WC's presence on the premises would have stopped the discussion.
We are being ruled by a little kid with huge ears, thin skin, and a knee-jerk need to yell "did not" whenever someone catches him doing just about anything.
For that matter, given his recent comments on successful non civil servants, he's big on "did not" in a lot of situations.
Certainly his beard knows better, but his....
Believe him in any circumstance? I couldn’t. Not a pathological liar.
Thanks.
You are right, it is difficult to know exactly what happened, but I do remember this story being a controversy back in 2009, and I do remember the Brit’s being none to happy about it.
The Clintons, et al are aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky ideologues, campus radicals, and just plain spoiled brats none of whom were held accountable for anything in their entire youth.
Swatting away annoying questions with lies is no different to them then swatting away a fly.
With their infiltration of government, the media, education, entertainment they are arguably now the Establishment.
It is our turn to "bring it all down, man."
November 2012!
Cut the condescension and read no. 17 and 67 above.
The various news stories are contradictory and confused.
Even the 2009 story says that what was returned was a loaner and that the return came in the waning Bush term.
One of the other stories quoted on this thread says that Obama refused an offer to extend the loan.
What NONE of these stories clarify is
1. when was the original 1965 Lyndon Johnson gift returned? If it was returned during Bush’s term, then there’s no problem with giving back the loaner. If it had not been returned when Obama took office, then his rejection of an extension of the loan is a crime. But we don’t know that, based on these stories.
2. At some point the original was indeed returned because it’s now in the Residence and the loaner, apparently, is in the British Ambassador’s residence.
This points to the return of the original 1965 bust as taking place some time after 2009. If that’s what happened, then I’d be the first to fault Obama for silently using it as a trap to settle scores with his critics from 2009
But reading all the stupid stories, as you condescendingly recommend, does not clarify this.
Until it is clarified, we don’t know exactly what Obama’s crime is. That he’s a criminal and hates the British, I don’t doubt. Exactly what happened with Church’s bust, we don’t know.
We are the 1%rs.
Read the stories. U R Confused. The stories say both of these. You are sure which of the two versions about the loaner, repairs, etc. is right.
But that means you are choosing among the bits pieces of the stories because what I wrote is in the stupid stories.
Read the stories.
Read the stories.
Read the stories.
Read the stories.
Then give some hard evidence as to just which of the conflicting stories is true.
Uhm, NO.
Barry did give the bust that was cause celebre back to Great Britain.
It remains in the British Ambassador’s residence and on their sovereign soil.
Where was the Johnson bust in July 2001?
Why was Bush given a “loaner”?
Did the US have two identical busts from 2001-2009? Where was each kept.
There may be perfectly good answers to these questions and Zero may be the total goat in all this.
But the stories floating around, none of them from 2009 onward make any of this clear. There was spin going on already in the 2009 stories and some it seems to have been coming from our side, is the conclusion I draw, at this stage.
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