Posted on 07/26/2012 11:44:37 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
Victim 2, the boy who was, until now, known to exist only because Mike McQueary saw him being molested by Jerry Sandusky in a Penn State shower in 2001, has come forward to two State College lawyers.
Andrew Shubin and Justine Andronici, two lawyers who launched their own investigation into Sandusky's activities over the last four decades -- and the reactions of people around him -- say that Victim 2 has identified himself to them.
As part of the investigation, they acquired voicemails from Sandusky to the man, and released those on www. rossfellercasey.com, the website of the Philadelphia law firm they are working with.
In both, Sandusky ends the message with "love you."
They released a statement that reads, in part:
"Our client suffered extensive sexual abuse over many years both before and after the 2001 incident Michael McQueary witnessed in the Penn State Lasch building shower.
"Penn State has now admitted and there is no longer any question that its top officials could have and should have prevented these acts.
"Jerry Sandusky's abuse of Victim 2 and other children is a direct result of a conspiracy to conceal Sandusky's conduct and the decisions by top Penn State officials that facilitated and enabled his access to victims.
(Excerpt) Read more at pennlive.com ...
Some Penn State apologist called in a local talk show to complain that these are “the darkest days for Penn State”. The host shot back “No, Penn State’s darkest days were when young boys were getting raped on campus and noone in power was doing anything about it!”
I posit this question . If a coach condones credit card fraud by another coach— ok, he is aware the other retired coach murdered his wife, would this justify the sanctions agreed to by Ped State? Why is is relevant to football? Why has the school football program been destroyed? Who were idiots representing Penn State? Sanctions have in the past related to a violation of NCAA rules. Do we now have a rule that if we know of a crime committed by anyone in the program— we banish football.We punished 87 innocent football players for the acts of two retired employees? This was a horribly stupid act by Ped State and the NCAA and totally misplaces the blame. I can understand get Pedterno’s name off campus but DESTROY FOOTBALL? unbelievable.
It doesn’t really matter one way or another.
He had keys and an office to Penn State’s facilities given to him by the President of the school. He committed crimes at Penn States facilities. The school knew of problems that Sandusky did while he was an employee as well as when he was retired using the locker rooms and showers for his assaults.
I’m curious as to how they “found” the victim. Did the person come forward, or did they know the name and just couldn’t locate him prior to this? Obviously, the victim knew this was all going on, and it would seem he didn’t WANT to come forward. I can’t imagine what the man must be going through now... Talk about ripping off a bandage and opening wounds - and especially if you aren’t prepared for being confronted by these things... It can seriously screw a person up, even if they’ve achieved stability and have dealt with the issues.
The money isn’t any real consolation for the suffering he has already gone through, what he will be put through in court, and what he will suffer with the rest of his life - whether he is able to move forward and accept the past (become a survivor), or not. It may be stress off the person’s back as he probably won’t have to worry about work, and could concentrate on his wellness, and living. But, it’s not going to take away any of the pain...
As for those who allowed this to happen, covered it up, etc... I really don’t have any words that I can say here neither about how I feel about the monsters, nor what I think SHOULD be done to them.
The first thing that flashed though my mind at this headline was, “Did they find this kid buried under Sandusky’s rose bed?”
Good gosh. The evil that lives in “Happy Valley”.
Football was the conduit that created the culture allowing the crimes to be committed.
Joe Paterno wrote a long letter defending Penn State and the football program before he died.
Joe Paterno never wrote a letter expressing remorse and sadness for the children victimized.
Sandusky used the football program as way to gain access to his victims. Sandusky was protected by the school and treated differently then if he was a lowly employee accused of similar crimes.
The NCAA punishes programs all the time caused by a few individuals.
The NCAA did not destroy football at Penn State. Penn State destroyed their football team.
Evidently, Paterno was not the only one who knew and covered up for Sandusky. There were several others on staff(that we know of) who helped cover this up. All of them should be prosecuted and the school should be fined. Taxpayers should not have to continue supporting this kind of behavior.
If I were a ball player I would not want to play for Penn State at this point. That university willingly allowed itself to become a hunting gound for pedophiles and homosexual rapists.
Should ballplayers be punished? No, but the university should and if the team is collateral damage perhaps they will never allow it to take place on their campus again.
Perhaps he isn’t in jail because they are planning on using him as a witness, and they gave him immunity in exchange for his testimony?
As for why someone wouldn’t immediately call the cops - I don’t understand that either, and I never will. I mean it was a CHILD - not even a teen that the sick b*st*rd could lie about having a consensual relationship with. It baffles me.
I think I may see a starting point...?
NM - I don’t read well enough sometimes. I see that the victim is the one who came forward to the lawyers. Still, many of the things in my post still apply.
Fox Radio News said that he came forward because he is suing PSU.
I guess molesting them elsewhere was just fine.
I ask you, why would they make that stipulation? What possible explanation could there be for that?
If you don't know what that is, look it up. A kind of semi-retirement.
And of course PSU and it's crazy supporters want to make some distance between Sandusky and themselves NOW.
Too late.
He probably cut an immunity deal.
<>Now if we could just find—and find out what happened to—former Centre County DA Gicar....<>
Funny how he was declared legally dead as this scandal broke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar
Among other things, the article mentions a long-lost dictation tape from Gricar dated months after a decision had been made not to prosecute Sandusky for the first 1998 showering incidents:
“Oct. 13, 1998. Schreffler, Ralston, Sloane, Gricar. Investigation going to Penn State meeting. Ray. Fran Ganter. Ron Schreffler is taking us to the football building and I will finish this memo, Sue, and either Ray will type something, handwrite something or he’ll tell me to dictate this and I’ll give you the tape when we get back. Thanks.”
This, to me, is fascinating. What investigation was still going on six months after the charges had been dropped against Sandusky? Consider, too, that on the day Gricar was legally declared dead, Gricar's nephew said Gricar had a sour taste in his mouth and felt that Penn State football had stonewalled the Sandusky investigation.
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